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ULL ULM La tech FBS status costs state of LA $22.4mm 2013

Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by Evergreenie
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2005
147 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:03 am
So, gathering from another thread:

ULL had $18,111,361 ($7.6 million subsidy came from school) with expenses of $18,652,324

LA Tech had $18,570,493 ($9.2 million subsidy came from school)with expenses of $18,444,386.

ULM cost $4mm in 2013 subsidy from the school.

So, basically the state taxpayers subsidized the collective of three state FBS programs, outside LSU, to the tune of $22.4mm last year.

That is awesome for the public fisc.
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:09 am to
I think these schools are allowed to transfer a maximum of 3% of the general university funds to apply towards athletics. They can transfer 0% if they choose and it would all go towards academics. The presidents see a value in athletics and they usually transfer the full 3%

(it may be more than 3%... 5%?)

Edit to add: It looks like ULM is not using the full amount.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69623 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:13 am to
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Posted by Evergreenie
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2005
147 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:53 am to


this is headed for a crossroad if this trend above keeps up
Posted by Bigsike
Member since Jan 2009
1382 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:56 am to
What is the difference between athletic scholarships and TOPS?

Student athletes have to maintain a certain GPA to stay eligible. They represent their universities in the classroom, on playing service and in the community.

Let also not forget that athletics is the major marketing tool of their university.

Get off your high horse.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38910 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:57 am to
Higher education funding has been a mess in Louisiana for years. It's not like these FBS programs created the problem.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21255 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:02 am to
7 public D-1 universities don't use a state subsidy/transfer from general fund for athletics.

Texas, LSU, Oklahoma, Purdue, Ohio St., Penn St., and Nebraska.

OK St. operated at a $3M loss last year while taking a $7M subsidy.

ULL, ULM and Tech are not unique in how they try to generate funds for athletics from the rest of the country, except for the fact that any student fees for athletics must be approved by the students, while many other states don't have that restriction.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
7929 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:17 am to
quote:

ULL had $18,111,361 ($7.6 million subsidy came from school) with expenses of $18,652,324 LA Tech had $18,570,493 ($9.2 million subsidy came from school)with expenses of $18,444,386. ULM cost $4mm in 2013 subsidy from the school. So, basically the state taxpayers subsidized the collective of three state FBS programs, outside LSU, to the tune of $22.4mm last year.


Great post...when you add in Grambling, Southern, Nicholls, Southeastern etc...it came out to near $45 million the taxpayers paid. They should sell tickets or get out of the business...sickening!
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:18 am to
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What is the difference between athletic scholarships and TOPS? 

Student athletes have to maintain a certain GPA to stay eligible.

Students in TOPS need to maintain a certain GPA or they lose TOPS for good. Our at least get bumped down a level. Athletes who let their GPA drop get suspended from football but don't lose their scholarship.

With that said, almost every school in the nation gets a state sibsidy.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21255 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:20 am to
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They should sell tickets or get out of the business...sickening!



Because LSU always operated solely on self-generated revenue for athletics, right?
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
1308 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

With that said, almost every school in the nation gets a state sibsidy.


Laugh. Out. Loud.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16433 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:25 am to
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Laugh. Out. Loud.

Am I wrong?
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
1308 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:40 pm to
Very ...
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9313 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Very ...


LINK
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:52 pm to
they also passed up free money from a bowl game.

fricking wasting money
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:52 pm to
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The median subsidy increase for those 10 programs was a little more than $160,000.
Posted by The Stash
The Boot
Member since Jan 2014
1308 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:53 pm to
I guess you forgot about all the private schools or we just have a different understanding of the phrase "almost all schools".
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 3:57 pm to
Add in the cost of Nichols State, McNeese St., Grambling, Southern, SLU, Northwestern, UNO, and others and the amount is even greater.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9313 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

or we just have a different understanding of the phrase "almost all schools"


You're quoting the wrong person, but 10% is a pretty small #
quote:

In 2011-12, athletics programs at 23 of 228 Division I public schools generated enough money from media rights contracts, ticket sales, donations and other sources (not including subsidies from institutional or government support or student fees) to cover their expenses.
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