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UFC 258 Usman/Burns and 259(three titles on the line)
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:41 pm
First things first-our boy Poirier from Lafayette beat the king of the UFC(their moneymaker). The evolution of Poirier is incredible. He should have the strap on him IMO as the champ, then settle the rest of the lightweight division. That match was for McGregor to be the champ again and Dustin said Nope. A whole different fighter. Full of confidence. Not rattled in the least in the lead up nor in the fight. Had the perfect game plan and won bc of it. The narrative is that McGregor lost when it should be Poirier is the new king of the lightweight division.
It may be overlooked bc 259 is loaded with the 135 belt, 205 belt(Adesanya moving up) and Nunes w/ 135 women’s division(I don’t think she’ll ever lose in the UFC unless judges/scoring is atrocious). The other two fights are Kenney/Cruz and Heinisch/Gastelum.
Now to 258 which may be overlooked by UFC fans. Burns/Usman is THE fight in the division. Looking forward to this fight. Maycee Barber faces Grasso. I think Barber is on a mission. She was in LFA and said from the start she wanted to be the youngest to hold a belt(Jon Jones’ record). An injury during the Modaferie fight halted her momentum. Gastelum fights Heinisch the Hurricane. This guy has done time in Rikers. Good story of picking yourself up after messing up. Jim Miller is on the card. Munhoz facing Rivera who is moving down. It’ll be a great card. I’ve got Barber for my win of that night.
ETA: fixed
It may be overlooked bc 259 is loaded with the 135 belt, 205 belt(Adesanya moving up) and Nunes w/ 135 women’s division(I don’t think she’ll ever lose in the UFC unless judges/scoring is atrocious). The other two fights are Kenney/Cruz and Heinisch/Gastelum.
Now to 258 which may be overlooked by UFC fans. Burns/Usman is THE fight in the division. Looking forward to this fight. Maycee Barber faces Grasso. I think Barber is on a mission. She was in LFA and said from the start she wanted to be the youngest to hold a belt(Jon Jones’ record). An injury during the Modaferie fight halted her momentum. Gastelum fights Heinisch the Hurricane. This guy has done time in Rikers. Good story of picking yourself up after messing up. Jim Miller is on the card. Munhoz facing Rivera who is moving down. It’ll be a great card. I’ve got Barber for my win of that night.
ETA: fixed
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:15 pm
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:46 pm to Arthur Bach
Spacing bro, give it a try next time
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:47 pm to Arthur Bach
quote:pump the brakes. Masvidal Covington I think is the biggest fight in the division. Although WW is stacked and has a lot of great fighters.
Burns/Usman is THE fight in the division.
Btw great interview with Colby here to understand the mindset of a top level fighter
LINK
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 7:50 pm to diat150
Also I think poirier made a misstep when he flat out declined to fight chandler. Dana loves a guy that steps up and chandler has stepped up to be the backup, stepped up and knocked out a top 5 opponent in great fashion, and also stepped up to take a fight if ufc made the deal for 258(which they couldn’t). We will see how it plays out but if he refuses Dana won’t frick around with him I promise that. While chandler hasn’t been in the ufc, he has looked good and fought well against top level guys, not to mention knocked out hooker when poirier couldn’t.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:15 pm to diat150
I’m a Jiu jitsu guy and our sport is absolutely plagued by the fact that top level guys won’t fight other top level guys, and I really hope that fighters like Dustin don’t start the same problem in MMA because they want to protect their brands and pick and choose good stylistic matchups for themselves
I know this might not be received well because we’re on a Louisiana forum and I get that Dustin is a great guy and has turned into a great role model, etc. but it really rubbed me the wrong way that he went so far out of his way to be Mr. “I’m going to promote my hot sauce at weigh ins and be buddy buddy with McGregor and make it clear that I’m a businessman first and a fighter second” guy throughout the entire process of UFC 257
It’s hard to describe but I feel like that mindset is extremely prevalent in BJJ and that was the first time I’ve seen it pour over into MMA on a noticeable level, it would be a very bad thing for the UFC if it became the prevailing mindset
I know this might not be received well because we’re on a Louisiana forum and I get that Dustin is a great guy and has turned into a great role model, etc. but it really rubbed me the wrong way that he went so far out of his way to be Mr. “I’m going to promote my hot sauce at weigh ins and be buddy buddy with McGregor and make it clear that I’m a businessman first and a fighter second” guy throughout the entire process of UFC 257
It’s hard to describe but I feel like that mindset is extremely prevalent in BJJ and that was the first time I’ve seen it pour over into MMA on a noticeable level, it would be a very bad thing for the UFC if it became the prevailing mindset
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:15 pm to Ed Osteen
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Spacing bro, give it a try next time
my bad I fixed it. Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:19 pm to diat150
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pump the brakes. Masvidal Covington I think is the biggest fight in the division
This isn’t a scheduled fight yet. Both lost to Usman. Masvidal didn’t have much time to his credit.
ETA: Poirier beat Hooker, Chandler beat Hooker. He shouldn’t be able to skip the line. Dustin knows he’s the top dog now. These guys don’t get paid well unless they get to top tier. Don’t blame him a bit for not immediately trying to fight a guy who has 1 win in the UFC(No knock on Chandler. I could see him holding the belt) against someone he beat himself already. Poirier vs Oliveira for the belt is best for the division. Let Chandler face Gaethje. Conor vs Tony, or Conor vs Nate, but I could see Nate waiting on that one. I don’t know. It’ll be fun to see how it shakes out, but I want to see Nate fighting ASAP. With him you have a good fight no matter what.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:23 pm to Arthur Bach
Me and the ole lady got valentines dinner the night of Usman/Burns. Told her she could pick anywhere she wants if we can hit the bar for the fights after. We got a deal 
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:28 pm to Arthur Bach
I would be more excited to see masvidal vs Conor than Covington.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:35 pm to Forever
Could you explain? I’m a white belt that doesn’t know shite, but I would never want to grapple my equal. That doesn’t help anyone. I always preferred to roll w a blue belt or up, mainly for safety bc they won’t go wild, also so I can be ready in the real world for all sizes of people. Is this an ADCC thing?
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:49 pm to Forever
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but it really rubbed me the wrong way that he went so far out of his way to be Mr. “I’m going to promote my hot sauce at weigh ins and be buddy buddy with McGregor and make it clear that I’m a businessman first and a fighter second” guy throughout the entire process of UFC 257
Honestly he did a terrible job at that because Conor was the one that actually brought it up first at the press conference. A reporter asked something about business and Dustin rattled off something then Conor jumped in and said what about the hot sauce and actually brought it up which led to Dustin bringing it to the weigh in. That’s what separate a guy like Conor from everyone else. He knew how to market himself in the fight game and outside of it. Conor would never ever rule a fight out against a top opponent he would make a case for it and have the feud ready to go in his back pocket depending on who had momentum. Chandler has a shitload of pro fights a lot against good fighters and has momentum. You don’t shite on the dude you say easy money I’ll cash that check anytime for the belt.
I also listened to his interview with Ariel and he was saying he didn’t like the fans and shite like that. Dude will never become a big name shitting on the fans.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 8:52 pm to Forever
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I’m a Jiu jitsu guy and our sport is absolutely plagued by the fact that top level guys won’t fight other top level guys, and I really hope that fighters like Dustin don’t start the same problem in MMA because they want to protect their brands and pick and choose good stylistic matchups for themselves
It’s what done boxing in also. As long as Dana is running shite he will keep it going. If Dustin doesn’t want to fight he can sit at home. Nobody will miss a beat if he announces chandler vs gaethje or Oliviera for an interim belt of the real belt. He has done it before and will do it again if Dustin doesn’t fight who or when he wants.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:21 pm to Arthur Bach
It’s a superfight thing- Gordon Ryan is the only guy who will fight anyone anytime anywhere. A lot of elite BJJ guys from Atos, Brazilian gyms and lineages, etc. won’t take matches with guys who train with John Danaher because they don’t have developed leg lock games like the DDS does.
It’s not about being better or fighting the best, it’s about protecting their brands because if they get their knee shredded in 26 seconds by Craig Jones then they feel they’ll lose their clout and money. It’s a fricked way to look at things and costs our sport a chance at being truly mainstream. The only way a non-practitioner would watch Jiu jitsu would be to see a Galvao vs. Gordon type match and it’s not happening anytime soon
It’s not about being better or fighting the best, it’s about protecting their brands because if they get their knee shredded in 26 seconds by Craig Jones then they feel they’ll lose their clout and money. It’s a fricked way to look at things and costs our sport a chance at being truly mainstream. The only way a non-practitioner would watch Jiu jitsu would be to see a Galvao vs. Gordon type match and it’s not happening anytime soon
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:38 pm to Forever
quote:That's not the issue Diat was talking about regarding Poirier though.
and I really hope that fighters like Dustin don’t start the same problem in MMA because they want to protect their brands and pick and choose good stylistic matchups for themselves
Poirier isn't Scared of the fight/match-up. He just thinks Chandler needs to "pay his dues" first. But as Diat said, that might piss off Dana.
Also, they tried to make a Chandler vs Oliveira fight on short notice since Chandler didn't break a sweat. But Oliveira's camp was not happy. Can't say I blame them
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:48 pm to castorinho
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Poirier isn't Scared of the fight/match-up. He just thinks Chandler needs to "pay his dues" first
I mean that’s the words that are coming out of Dustin’s mouth but do you believe them? I think Chandler is a shitty stylistic matchup for Dustin and Dustin doesn’t want to get his arse beat without cashing in a few title fight paychecks first
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 2/2/21 at 9:52 pm to castorinho
I think Burns beats usman.
In my opinion burns/usman and olivera/khabib are the two most intriguing fights in all of mma
In my opinion burns/usman and olivera/khabib are the two most intriguing fights in all of mma
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:02 pm to PT24-7
quote:Poirier fought Hooker, Khabib, Conor, Gaethje and Blessed Express when he was still on a an absolute tear. While he shouldn't be dodging, I don't think he's scared and he genuinely believes that Chandler should "earn it."
mean that’s the words that are coming out of Dustin’s mouth but do you believe them? I think Chandler is a shitty stylistic matchup for Dustin and Dustin doesn’t want to get his arse beat without cashing in a few title fight paychecks first
Problem for him is that Dana won't have an issue justifying another title fight without him if he stalls.
quote:I'm done with being intrigued by Khabib's fights
olivera/khabib are the two most intriguing
. Jon Jones vs Ngannou/Stipe this summer is going to be great.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:05 pm to castorinho
What olivera did to Tony on the ground and the feet combined with the guillotine Dustin put on khabib makes me think there’s a small chance
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:06 pm to castorinho
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Also, they tried to make a Chandler vs Oliveira fight on short notice since Chandler didn't break a sweat. But Oliveira's camp was not happy. Can't say I blame them
Oliveira is on an eight in a row win streak in the UFC recently beating Tony Ferguson. Can’t blame them, either. Chandler is legit, I just think he needs to earn another win or two to be fighting for the belt.
Nate just called out Dustin. Two of my favorite fighters. This will be an interesting year for fights. I don’t think Nunes losing either title this year. Many other divisions have some interesting possibilities-Adesanya moving up, Jones moving up, Dillashaw coming back/Cejudo possibly. It’s fun to have the UFC in the off-season of football. Great input from y’all. Enjoying y’all point of view. Someone mentioned Masvidal v Conor. While unlikely, I haven’t thought of that matchup and man would that be cool.
to y’all Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:29 pm to Arthur Bach
quote:That would be nuts. If they give McGregor a tune up fight to get some of the hype back, that would likely challenge Conor vs Khabib in PPV buys. Even though 251 was a stacked card, Masvidal carried that PPV.
Masvidal v Conor. While unlikely, I haven’t thought of that matchup and man would that be cool. to y’all
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