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Trading Kevin Love is retarded; here is what the cavs need

Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:58 pm
I see that none of y'all watched any of these games. Heres what they can or need to focus on.

1) Continuity -- they need a mostly complete roster to rely on for the year. They had to integrate too many pieces mid season and they never got a full team gel
2) Fight for the overall number one seed -- in doing this, you build habits through continuity and a shared goal. I think the cavs downfall this year was deemphasizing the regular season. The regular season is important for habits -- if they habits arent there as a base, its hard to muster them together in the playoffs. The switch is real but its unreliable.
3) Emphasize defense. Ty Lue's biggest problem this year was his emphasis on defense. They played the wrong chess pieces vs the warriors and tried to outscore them consistently; you could see it in Lue's sub patterns; he favored offense over defense consistently
4) Get longer -- this team isn't practically young or long on the wings. They need more quality defenders and youth on the wings
5) get true center -- little known stat but they got killed on the glass in this series. They played the whole year without a true 7 footer. Mozgov helped this a lot because some of those second chance opportunities are just won by the tallest man getting to the ball first. Cant expect a 6'8 Center to consistently win rebounding bouts over 7'0, 6'8, and 6'11 (KD, Dray, ZAZA)
6) Keep love-- love played great in this series (4 of 5 games) and showed that he can/is an important piece to championship. What they need is to trade Tristan Thompson for youth and center.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61113 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:02 am to
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5) get true center -- little known stat but they got killed on the glass in this series. They played the whole year without a true 7 footer. Mozgov helped this a lot because some of those second chance opportunities are just won by the tallest man getting to the ball first. Cant expect a 6'8 Center to consistently win rebounding bouts over 7'0, 6'8, and 6'11 (KD, Dray, ZAZA)


I remember mozgov was a big deal but his minutes declined as the season progressed and then they let him sign with LAL.

What happened to him being so important?
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1807 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:03 am to
The Cavs can't add anyone else that matters. They already have the largest payroll. Trading Love is the only way to add all those pieces you mentioned. You think adding a player like Paul George over Love is retarded? How did adding Durant work out for the Warriors?
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:03 am to
As the french say, its Le Over. Let it go.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22776 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:05 am to
I would trade Love for Hayward, Butler, or George in a second. That is about all they can do to get good enough to not rely on perfect series to win.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29953 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 2:11 am to
Nah, they should ship him. He's come up small in back to back finals.

A good regular season player but not one of the cream of the crop guys when it matters most
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36402 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:51 am to
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6) Keep love-- love played great in this series (4 of 5 games) and showed that he can/is an important piece to championship. What they need is to trade Tristan Thompson for youth and center.



played great? did he convert one basket in the paint?
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 7:56 am to
Ty Lue is a bad coach. Too many times the Cavs fell into ISO ball with a ball handler and 4 guys just standing at the 3 point line. Not only did they pull up and take bad jumpers on many of these possessions, but they had no one even attempting to get the rebound. If you want to beat the Warriors, you have to rough them up and take the ball in to the paint. I get that the Cavs were a great 3 point shooting team, but LeBron and Kyrie can score pretty much at will in the paint. Those 3s become a lot easier if everyone is crashing the paint.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:22 am to
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here is what the cavs need by StrongSafety


stop letting Lebron play GM and hire a real coach...
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 9:26 am to
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stop letting Lebron play GM and hire a real coach...



Wait, so you don't agree that having JR Smith as a starter and Richard Jefferson getting a decent chunk if minutes is a good thing?

If anyone was ever born to be a sixth man, it is JR Smith.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17126 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 10:50 am to
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here is what the cavs need


Get rid of JR Smith and pick up Kyle Lowry or Gordon Hayward
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:19 pm to
They need to dump Love, Tristan, and Lue to have any chance at e climbing to GS's level.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34865 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:39 pm to
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stop letting Lebron play GM and hire a real coach...


Yep.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43067 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:45 pm to
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played great? did he convert one basket in the paint?
He had some timely offensive rebounds but yes mostly ineffective imo.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:47 pm to
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) Keep love-- love played great in this series (4 of 5 games) and showed that he can/is an important piece to championship. What they need is to trade Tristan Thompson for youth and center.


Love is a problem. You can't deviate that much from your baseline performance level for 11 Finals games vs GS.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 12:48 pm
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