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re: This Is Why The Seahawks Won, Regardless of Bad Call
Posted on 9/26/12 at 2:52 pm to stapuffmarshy
Posted on 9/26/12 at 2:52 pm to stapuffmarshy
One former player made an interesting comment: he honestly feels like the refs thought that the Packers were on offense, thus the TD call. As to any question as to whether it was a blown call or not, Vegas is offering a refund to those who bet & lost at specific casinos. Vegas NEVER gives refunds except for a very very valid reason.
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Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:07 pm to PurpleReignUW
You must be blind or a wonderfully effective troll.
Watch Tate's right arm. He doesn't establish that hand on the ball til one of Jennigns feet hit the ground. That is not simultaneous.
Also, the game should have been over with the blatant offensive pass interference by Tate.
These idiotic attempts to gain credibility for the "win" makes me lose all my respect for Tate and the Seahawks fans.
Watch Tate's right arm. He doesn't establish that hand on the ball til one of Jennigns feet hit the ground. That is not simultaneous.
Also, the game should have been over with the blatant offensive pass interference by Tate.
These idiotic attempts to gain credibility for the "win" makes me lose all my respect for Tate and the Seahawks fans.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:28 pm to bbrownso
And the PI call against KamBam that extended and allowed the GB touchdown drive to happen was what exactly?
By the way, to those saying you have to have more than just your hands on the ball... Tyrone Prothro of Alabama disagrees with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53imC4zojfc
By the way, to those saying you have to have more than just your hands on the ball... Tyrone Prothro of Alabama disagrees with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53imC4zojfc
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:31 pm to PurpleReignUW
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First of all, Tate's hands touched the ball first, before Jennings' did, and secondly, it does not matter what happened in the air, as possession is not obtained by a defender until he touches the ground, and by then, both Tate and Jennings had a grasp on the ball.
well the NFL rulebook disagrees with you
the rule states "control of the ball" not a "completed catch of the ball"
you fricking won, why are you trying to defend this? its one thing to say the Seahwaks deserved to win the game...I can be on board with that
I am not on board with you saying that last play was the right call
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Tyrone Prothro of Alabama disagrees with you:
that catch has nothing to do with "simultaneous possession" in any way, shape or form
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:32 pm to Eighteen
Of course not, it has to do with possession or not, which has everything to do with simultaneous POSSESSION.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:33 pm to PurpleReignUW
quote:what about the bullshite offensive PI & the bullshite roughing the QB (that also happened to negate a packers interception) on that same drive?
You guys are just as misinformed as the talking heads on ESPN. Here is an exclusive new angle on the catch from Q13Fox which proves Tate had a full grasp of the ball and is the textbook definition of a simultaneous catch:
LINK
The Packers not only lost the game fair and square, but they got DESTROYED by the Hawks defense.
And I did not "abandon" the thread. I have a "job" during the day that requires me to be unable to sit on the forum all day.
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that is actually a worse angle
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:35 pm to PurpleReignUW
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Of course not, it has to do with possession or not, which has everything to do with simultaneous POSSESSION.
hmmm
quote:
Rule 8, Article 3, Item 5: If a pass is caught simulataneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control.
Notice the word "control"
It has nothing to do with a completed catch. NOTHING. It also has nothing to do with who touched the ball first...it is who controls the ball first
Jennings has the ball, with two hands and at some point in the fall one of Tate's hands lets go (which does happen) it is no longer eligible to be "simultaneous"
Now if on the way down Jennings lost control of it, then it would have been able to be "re-controlled"...but he didn't he had control of it all the way to the ground
YOU.ARE.WRONG.
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/12 at 3:39 pm to PurpleReignUW
quote:
By the way, to those saying you have to have more than just your hands on the ball... Tyrone Prothro of Alabama disagrees with you:
Prothro was the only one in possession of that ball. What's the comparison?
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And the PI call against KamBam that extended and allowed the GB touchdown drive to happen was what exactly?
And the 3rd and forever defensive PI call where Rice shoved the DB to get leverage was what? Besides, these are judgment calls. As bad as they are, they are judgments. Possession is not.
C'mon, man.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:07 pm to Eighteen
Look at Article 7 of the rule book about Player Possession, he has to control the ball all the way to the ground, and Tate has both hands on the ball when he touches the ground first, before Jennings.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:11 pm to Eighteen
quote:
Notice the word "control"
It has nothing to do with a completed catch. NOTHING. It also has nothing to do with who touched the ball first...it is who controls the ball first
Jennings has the ball, with two hands and at some point in the fall one of Tate's hands lets go (which does happen) it is no longer eligible to be "simultaneous"
Now if on the way down Jennings lost control of it, then it would have been able to be "re-controlled"...but he didn't he had control of it all the way to the ground
YOU.ARE.WRONG.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:13 pm to redfieldk717
Go to PurpleReignUW posts regarding the LSU-uw game and you will see his posts about the Seahawks are about what you'd expect.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:13 pm to PurpleReignUW
quote:
The Packers lost the game, regardless of the last play.
In other words, the Packers lost the game, regardless of who scored the most points
Got it
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:17 pm to PurpleReignUW
Everyone in the country is wrong, and the only people who are right are Seahawks fans, who also happen to reap the benefits.
Isn't that crazy? What a coincidence!
Isn't that crazy? What a coincidence!
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:20 pm to PurpleReignUW
quote:
Look at Article 7 of the rule book about Player Possession, he has to control the ball all the way to the ground, and Tate has both hands on the ball when he touches the ground first, before Jennings.
yes that is the rule about a catch, not simultaneous possession...once Tate's hand came off and simultaneous possession is out of play then it turns into a simple catch rule with Jenkins (regardless of what Tate did)
and Jennings does control the ball all the way to the ground, which means the interception is successful
it is not a "race to the ground" to see who "wins the catch"
god you are dense
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:24 pm to PurpleReignUW
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Look at Article 7 of the rule book about Player Possession, he has to control the ball all the way to the ground, and Tate has both hands on the ball when he touches the ground first, before Jennings.
You should see the sport science segment on espn today. You'll see that what you're saying is complete and utter bullshite.
You contradict what that rule says. Tate didn't control the ball all the way down. As a matter of fact he barely had one hand on it. Jennings was the first to have two hands on it. He controlled it and Tate didn't get a second hand on it til after he touches the ground.
Seriously, watch the sport science segment. Although you'd have to take off the homer shades first and just looking at your posts makes me realize that won't happen.
Dear MSB, don't let this douche skew your view on all hawks fans. I know several that know they got lucky and won't sit there and argue that it was the right call.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:25 pm to Eighteen
Hmmmmmm, looks like MD has the ball "all the way to the ground" with Tate sliding a hand(note: singular) in there
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:26 pm to PurpleReignUW
quote:
Look at Article 7 of the rule book about Player Possession, he has to control the ball all the way to the ground, and Tate has both hands on the ball when he touches the ground first, before Jennings.
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:30 pm to DovaVol
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DovaVol
Posted on 9/26/12 at 4:32 pm to PurpleReignUW
DP
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:23 pm to LSUintheNW
I see, I have an opposing viewpoint, therefore I am dumb, got it.
Control of the ball, feet down first, catch for Tate:
https://seattletimes.com/html/seahawksblog/2019265422_presented_witho.html
Control of the ball, feet down first, catch for Tate:
https://seattletimes.com/html/seahawksblog/2019265422_presented_witho.html
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