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re: There is no way the Cavs win without 30+ shots from LeBron - T or F
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:39 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:39 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Yea, the ECF vs the Hawks where JR averaged 18 points and 47% from 3 was so long ago...
JR, well, is JR. Guy can shoot the lights out but it's becoming rarer and rarer these days.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:39 pm to Goldrush25
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I think that late flurry was fool's gold.
It happened when Cleveland took their foot off the pedal. At that point there was no pressure so it's easy to just let it fly.
When they game was close again what happened, the behind-the-back pass out of bounds and hugging Delly for the and-1.
Curry's completely in his own head right now. He's too focused on the result rather than the process. That's what the sulking is about. He's thinking about his game rather than just executing it.
He's shot that shot a million times before, there's no reason to be down on himself. Once he gets over that mental hurdle he will be great. I just don't think that will happen in a couple of days. He'll need to be red-hot for the Warriors to win because once he misses a few he'll have his head down again.
Outside of Curry being in his own head, I couldn't disagree with your post any more than I do.
Curry made some amazing shots last night, even when it was close. There was a bad call/no-call that killed their momentum (not saying it blew the game, but it definitely changed things). And as awesome as Curry is, he can't hit 100% of his shots. But he made most of them last night late and he went off a good bit. They say shooters should keep shooting to get themselves back on track, and it's likely that Curry did that last game in the second half and late. Does it mean he's back completely? Who knows. But it's definitely a positive for him considering that for the previous game and a half he couldn't throw it in the ocean.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:45 pm to slackster
This is True. The strategy, while it appeared dysfunctional on the surface, is in actuality brilliant.
LeBron tells his boys to play ball to the wall on D, then rest on offense.
Sure, they'll run the occasional play to give a guy some open looks. But never in the history of the NBA have I seen one player dribble the ball up the court, hold onto it for 20 seconds, then shoot a wild arse fadeaway yet still make it enough times to win the game.
If the cavs win this series, I honestly think it'll be the greatest single man performance I've seen in my life.
LeBron tells his boys to play ball to the wall on D, then rest on offense.
Sure, they'll run the occasional play to give a guy some open looks. But never in the history of the NBA have I seen one player dribble the ball up the court, hold onto it for 20 seconds, then shoot a wild arse fadeaway yet still make it enough times to win the game.
If the cavs win this series, I honestly think it'll be the greatest single man performance I've seen in my life.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:47 pm to SabiDojo
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Kyrie was complaining about them in Game 1 because he thought they weren't setting them properly, that they were moving too much.
I
Wonder
Why
But Lebron tackeled Curry
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:54 pm to LSUzealot
quote:I agree. There have been plenty of others. Say, a pitcher throwing 18+ scoreless in a series or a soccer player taking over a game or tourney or whatever. But there is something about this, at least so far, that is just amazing. I want it to happen so bad
If the cavs win this series, I honestly think it'll be the greatest single man performance I've seen in my life.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:58 pm to SabiDojo
quote:And I think Mozgov was the only guy to be called for an illegal screen last game
YIKES
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:11 pm to CocomoLSU
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Curry made some amazing shots last night, even when it was close. There was a bad call/no-call that killed their momentum (not saying it blew the game, but it definitely changed things). And as awesome as Curry is, he can't hit 100% of his shots. But he made most of them last night late and he went off a good bit. They say shooters should keep shooting to get themselves back on track, and it's likely that Curry did that last game in the second half and late. Does it mean he's back completely? Who knows. But it's definitely a positive for him considering that for the previous game and a half he couldn't throw it in the ocean.
He started that streak when they were nearly out of it. Maybe the pass out of bounds was nothing more than a miscommunication, but I'm not surprised in the least that he was able to start going off when they were no longer expected to win the game. I don't trust that he'll automatically carry that level of confidence to tonight.
He does really well when things are going well for him. But like you said, even with the best shooters, sometimes their shot doesn't fall. If that's the case, then he has no reason at all to hang his head low because that's simply the nature of his game. So last game's late rally really shouldn't even matter to him. If it does and he misses a couple, then he'll be hanging his head again thinking why won't the ball go in.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:15 pm to Goldrush25
Yea, Curry went off when the Cavs were gassed and GS was setting double and triple screens (most of them were moving screens ). I don't see that working for an entire game.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:18 pm to shel311
This might be why they aren't doubling Lebron very often
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:35 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Yea, I caught onto it after game 2.
But there is something about this, at least so far, that is just amazing. I want it to happen so bad
Most of the irrational types around here won't believe it, but I never cheer for Lebron(I've never cheered him on or anything of the sort on this board). I just appreciate his game and he happens to dominate the conversations on this board, so I post a lot about him, mostly positive, which shouldn't be surprising considering how good he is, but any who...
After game 2(fwiw, I called for a sweep or GS in 5 after the Irving injury), upon realizing how the Cavs are playing and this then game 3 upon realizing maybe they have a shot here, I just kinda came to the realization, if GS wins this series, anything short of this being their 1st title in a dynasty type run, it’s not really super memorable or anything out of the ordinary. If Lebron is able to continue going for near 40/1010 and CLE pulls this out, it’ll be talked about as one of the greatest single performances in sports history, and everyone will still remember or you’ll see it brought up here and there on TV 30 years from now like you see with Magic or Bird nowadays. I want that, I want to see that kind of historic, iconic moment and performance, so I do want to see CLE win this series.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:43 pm to shel311
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I want to see that kind of historic, iconic moment and performance, so I do want to see CLE win this series.
As do I, and I think everyone SHOULD. I root for historic moments because I feel like I missed a lot of them only being 27. If you find any negativity in what is happening here, you're a miserable lost soul.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:17 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Agreed being "efficient" isn't always in the team's best interest especially when there's a sizeable dropoff in talent after the stud.
Right. People don't understand this. Anything over the opportunity costvalue efficiency is good for your team and anything better than the other team's efficiency is positive basketball. If because of the refs allowing a TON of contact, .8 Points Per Possession is the standard for the day, than anything over that is efficient. 40 points on 20 shots improves team efficiency(the only relevant thing) more than 30 points on 14 shots, because those extra 10 points on 6 shots is still better than the opportunity cost of 9.6 points.
That's an oversimplification. In actuality, team PPP is incredibly inflated by fast breaks and breakdowns such as dunks. Those are great when they happen(and Lebron is as good as anybody at creating or finding them). But in any given possession where there is no opportunity for a fast break or a blown defensive assignment, the offensive points per possession is quite low. That's when Lebron plays his borderline "inefficient" basketball. He's not bricking pull-up hero ball jump shots on fast breaks with a guy open for a layup.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:22 pm to PapaPogey
Completely agree with both of you.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:43 pm to SabiDojo
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The only one who really can help is Delly, but he can't get out of double teams really well.
Wait, what? He is absolutely terrible on offense. 4.8 PPG in 21 minutes on 36 percent shooting? He's scored less than 10 PPG this series despite averaging 30 minutes.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:44 pm to TheSexecutioner
Oh, I agree, which really only goes to show how limited the options are.
ETA: Believe me, no one has been more critical of Delly than I. I've even said as much as he doesn't belong in the league. As of right now, though, he's the only one who APPEARS to have the ability to help LeBron right now. The kid is riding sky high.
ETA: Believe me, no one has been more critical of Delly than I. I've even said as much as he doesn't belong in the league. As of right now, though, he's the only one who APPEARS to have the ability to help LeBron right now. The kid is riding sky high.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:49 pm to slackster
Oh ok you're right. I misread the OP I guess. That's what I meant to say.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 3:56 pm to SabiDojo
Oh I still don't think he's a "good" basketball player. He plays with emotion and intensity which makes him extremely valuable especially for a short handed underdog team. That being said, he takes some bad looks and really isn't that good of a shooter. He's good in the moment and the moment is now, so he's definitely valuable.
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