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The Arrieta PED speculation, pathetic jealousy or justified?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:15 pm
If he had ballooned up like Clemens, Bonds, A-Rod, Sosa, Manny, Palmero, etc. I could see it, but the dude is just lean and has always been that way. My guess is extreme envy. It's not like this is a hitter that had a decent average with no pop all of a sudden hitting 30-40 home runs. Hell, it's not even a pitcher that topped out at 90 on his fastball suddenly hurling 96 for 9 innings. Literally the only change in his play was being a cut-fastball pitcher that mastered the control on his breaking pitches. Pretty bullshite that instead of people rewarding your hard work, they want to accuse you of cheating instead. Like a pitcher is going to benefit THAT much from PEDs in the first place. There's so much finesse and technique involved that pure physical strength wouldn't transform a pitcher like that anyway.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:17 pm to Drewbie
Zach Britton explained it perfectly the other day. Their old pitching coach wouldnt let him throw his cutter.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:18 pm to Lester Earl
jealous
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:18 pm to Drewbie
There's no way of knowing. With some of the guys who get popped, there are no obvious visual effects. PED's do more than get you jacked.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Stephen A. brought up his innings pitched like it was somehow condemning. He's thrown over 200 innings only once in his entire career. Hell, he's only thrown over 100 twice. Of course his arm's gonna be fresh you fricking moron.
Zach Britton explained it perfectly the other day. Their old pitching coach wouldnt let him throw his cutter.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:19 pm to GoldenBoy
quote:They don't give you the ability to start painting corners with breaking balls.
PED's do more than get you jacked.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:20 pm to Drewbie
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Drewbie
Put that Arkansas logo next to your name again. It fits you better.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:21 pm to Drewbie
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They don't give you the ability to start painting corners with breaking balls.
No, but your focus is off the charts, so it helps.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:22 pm to Drewbie
I just can't see how steroids would allow you to improve your pitching? Maybe it would give you endurance, but how can it help you command your pitches? But in today's game, you can't put it fast NO ONE.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:24 pm to Gtothemoney
quote:Exactly. Clemens started using when he was getting older and losing his zip. That I can see, but when you're Arrieta's age? Literally no point.
I just can't see how steroids would allow you to improve your pitching? Maybe it would give you endurance, but how can it help you command your pitches?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:25 pm to Gtothemoney
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I just can't see how steroids would allow you to improve your pitching? Maybe it would give you endurance, but how can it help you command your pitches? But in today's game, you can't put it fast NO ONE.
You have more energy, more endurance, more focus, and more strength. Add that all together and it definitely helps. Just like Bonds for example. His bat speed and focus/concentration definitely allowed him to make better contact and his new strength allowed him to go yard more often. Similar results for pitching.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:27 pm to Drewbie
Whenever a player does what he's done after being mediocre before people will ask questions. Anyone who follows it closely can see what he did though. He always had the stuff/potential
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:27 pm to Drewbie
Are the accusations coming from fellow players?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:28 pm to Drewbie
Someone should probably be pointing the finger at Baltimore's organization for failing to properly develop, and stunting the growth of a pitcher the caliber of Arrieta.
The PED talk is low-hanging fruit for the media to jump on.
The PED talk is low-hanging fruit for the media to jump on.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:29 pm to Gtothemoney
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I just can't see how steroids would allow you to improve your pitching? Maybe it would give you endurance, but how can it help you command your pitches? But in today's game, you can't put it fast NO ONE
Endurance and increased muscle recovery helps in the weight room, helping with velocity/snap on breaking pitches.
Endurance also allows you to better repeat your mechanics, which leads to increased command and velocity.
Not going to speculate on whether Arrieta is actually taking steroids, don't really care either way. Wouldn't change my opinion of him or what he's accomplishing.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:29 pm to sicboy
quote:The media said players were "whispering" about it, no names were ever given and no one has come out and said it. So I'm thinking it's just journalists and TV personalities fishing for views.
Are the accusations coming from fellow players?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:29 pm to Drewbie
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. He's thrown over 200 innings only once in his entire career. Hell, he's only thrown over 100 twice. Of course his arm's gonna be fresh you fricking moron.
not to mention his velocity was down in the playoffs. But yea, he has superhuman longevity
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:31 pm to Lester Earl
And I'm not saying he's on roids, but I wouldn't be shocked if he were. Either way, I like him
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:32 pm to BCMCubs
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Someone should probably be pointing the finger at Baltimore's organization for failing to properly develop, and stunting the growth of a pitcher the caliber of Arrieta.
This is much more likely than steroids, IMO. Baseball requires such fine tuned skill that sometimes small adjustments can drastically change player performance out of nowhere... Jose Bautista and Cliff Lee, off the top of my head.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:33 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:No idea what you mean by this.
Put that Arkansas logo next to your name again. It fits you better.
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