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The 1975-76 Indiana Hoosiers is the best college basketball team of all-time
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:09 pm
Their case:
-32-0, 18-0 Big Ten, Natl Champs, last team to ever successfully complete an undefeated season in history
-18 pt MOV against the 3rd toughest SOS in America
-SRS of 26.53
-13 pt MOV average in the NCAA Tournament, 18 pt margin in the NCAA title game
-Defeated Marquette(Butch Lee, Al McGuire) and defending champ UCLA(David Greenwood, Marques Johnson, Richard Washington) to reach the title game
-Wire to wire no. 1 ranking
-Bobby Knight, Bobby Wilkerson(first round pick), Quinn Buckner(first round pick), Scott May(first round, 2nd overall in 1976), Kent Benson(first overall in 1977), Tom Abernethy, Wayne Radford, Bob Bender(former NCAA HC) and Jim Crews(former NCAA HC) comprised that squad
-32-0, 18-0 Big Ten, Natl Champs, last team to ever successfully complete an undefeated season in history
-18 pt MOV against the 3rd toughest SOS in America
-SRS of 26.53
-13 pt MOV average in the NCAA Tournament, 18 pt margin in the NCAA title game
-Defeated Marquette(Butch Lee, Al McGuire) and defending champ UCLA(David Greenwood, Marques Johnson, Richard Washington) to reach the title game
-Wire to wire no. 1 ranking
-Bobby Knight, Bobby Wilkerson(first round pick), Quinn Buckner(first round pick), Scott May(first round, 2nd overall in 1976), Kent Benson(first overall in 1977), Tom Abernethy, Wayne Radford, Bob Bender(former NCAA HC) and Jim Crews(former NCAA HC) comprised that squad
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Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:11 pm to ThePTExperience1969
I remember them well. A great team that was better than the sum of its parts.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
What happened to 1981-1982 North Carolina?
(Did they lose a game since last week?)
(Did they lose a game since last week?)
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:23 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Haha that was a best team of the 80s thread
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:29 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Of course Alabama had to play them in the sweet 16
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:37 pm to Gary Busey
That was a good Alabama squad, coached by C.M Newton, 23-5 record, won the SEC, dominated a great North Carolina squad in the 32 Round that consisted of Walter Davis, Phil Ford and Mitch Kupchak
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:38 pm to ThePTExperience1969
"I've never come out and said it, but it would be hard to pick a team over the 1968 team." - John Wooden
The Bruins, playing with an injured Alcindor, suffered a mid-season loss to Houston and Elvin Hayes in the Astrodome, but proved that was a fluke in the tourney semifinal, burying the Cougars 101-69. The final was also cake, a 78-55 win over UNC.
How'd they do it? To start, they had Alcindor, the best player in college basketball history, who averaged 26 points and 16 rebounds per game. Junior guard Lucius Allen, senior Mike Warren, Jr., Lynn Shackleford and senior Mike Lynn also averaged in double figures for the season.
3 consecutive Natty's; last season for Kareem (3X player of the year) (3X Final Four MVP)
I'm picking a team with Kareem over a team with Quinn Buckner.
Kareem went 88-2 in college. 88 and motherfricking 2!!!!!!!!!!!
That 1968 team lost 1 game by 2 points with an injured Kareem who had the worst game of his career and then destroyed - DESTROYED! - Houston in the NCAA Final Four.
The Bruins, playing with an injured Alcindor, suffered a mid-season loss to Houston and Elvin Hayes in the Astrodome, but proved that was a fluke in the tourney semifinal, burying the Cougars 101-69. The final was also cake, a 78-55 win over UNC.
How'd they do it? To start, they had Alcindor, the best player in college basketball history, who averaged 26 points and 16 rebounds per game. Junior guard Lucius Allen, senior Mike Warren, Jr., Lynn Shackleford and senior Mike Lynn also averaged in double figures for the season.
3 consecutive Natty's; last season for Kareem (3X player of the year) (3X Final Four MVP)
I'm picking a team with Kareem over a team with Quinn Buckner.
Kareem went 88-2 in college. 88 and motherfricking 2!!!!!!!!!!!
That 1968 team lost 1 game by 2 points with an injured Kareem who had the worst game of his career and then destroyed - DESTROYED! - Houston in the NCAA Final Four.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:39 pm to ThePTExperience1969
1996 Kentucky and 1990 UNLV are the two best teams I've ever seen. Either one of them would have easily beaten that Indiana team.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
John Wooden's not incorrect in praising that 1968 team, the best of his UCLA teams. Those two squads make great arguments with the 2 best coaches of all-time, great players, great strategy, cool, simplistic uniforms, the whole 9. That 1976 Indiana squad was as unbeatable as any team in college history and historically significant too with the 32-0 record. They DEMOLISHED the toughest opponents with military efficiency that accurately reflected their genius head coach's approach and could defeat opponents from all angles. They embodied the term TEAM to the fullest extent.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 3:59 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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DEMOLISHED
You want to talk about demolishing...
Wooden preferred his 1968 team but his 1972 team might easily be the best ever.
The 1971–72 UCLA basketball team had a record of 30–0, in the process winning its games by an average margin of more than 32 points.
The Walton Gang swept through the regular season without a challenge, winning by an average margin of 32 points per game.
The Bruins were so good that Walton was disappointed about his team's 81-76 victory over Florida State in the NCAA title game.
"I'm really embarrassed," Walton said. "I can't believe how bad I played. I'd have to say it was one of my worst games. We should have beat these guys with ease. I guess I should be happy that we won, but, in all honesty, I'm not."
The season was also part of UCLA's NCAA record 88-game winning streak.
Compared to 1976 Indiana
On the season, Indiana outscored opponents by an average margin of 17.3 ppg.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:13 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
The 1972 Bruins played the 39th ranked SOS whereas the 1976 Hoosiers played the 3rd ranked SOS so the 1972 MOV is likely skewed by the lack of tough competition the Bruins faced that particular season. 1968 UCLA, I feel, was better than 1972 because, despite their one loss, they played a top ten ranked SOS and defeated those opponents by a 26 pt MOV not to mention their great performance in the 1968 Final Four. The 1973 Bruins were probably better than the year preceding as well.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:20 pm to ThePTExperience1969
There is really no getting around 1968 UCLA.
Lew Alcindor, Sidney Wicks, Lucius Allen, Curtis Rowe, John Vallely, Lynn Shackelford, Steve Patterson.
Then Lew Alcindor, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar went on to become arguably the greatest player in NBA history. Six MVPs, 10 All-NBA first teams, five All-NBA second teams, 19 All-Star Game selections and the all-time leader in points scored with 38,387. The man played 20 years in the NBA and averaged 24.6 points and 11.2 rebounds per game. Enough said.
Sidney Wicks and Lucius Allen were also on this roster. Both went on to play 10 seasons in the NBA. Wicks averaged 16.8 points per game, while Allen put up 13.4 per night. As noted above, Allen was the No. 3 pick in 1969. Wicks went second in 1971. Alcindor was taken first overall in 1969.
The Bruins also had Curtis Rowe, who averaged 11.6 per game for eight seasons. Three others on the roster played at least one NBA season.
It is beyond ridiculous how much talent was on this roster. That they failed to go undefeated has to be one of the biggest surprises in college basketball history.
And like I said, they were so great - their lone loss was in the "Game of the Century" in the gigantic Astrodome...and they lost by 2 points to #2 Houston when Kareem had a scratched cornea.
Then beat #1 Houston by about 40 points in the Final Four.
Lew Alcindor, Sidney Wicks, Lucius Allen, Curtis Rowe, John Vallely, Lynn Shackelford, Steve Patterson.
Then Lew Alcindor, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar went on to become arguably the greatest player in NBA history. Six MVPs, 10 All-NBA first teams, five All-NBA second teams, 19 All-Star Game selections and the all-time leader in points scored with 38,387. The man played 20 years in the NBA and averaged 24.6 points and 11.2 rebounds per game. Enough said.
Sidney Wicks and Lucius Allen were also on this roster. Both went on to play 10 seasons in the NBA. Wicks averaged 16.8 points per game, while Allen put up 13.4 per night. As noted above, Allen was the No. 3 pick in 1969. Wicks went second in 1971. Alcindor was taken first overall in 1969.
The Bruins also had Curtis Rowe, who averaged 11.6 per game for eight seasons. Three others on the roster played at least one NBA season.
It is beyond ridiculous how much talent was on this roster. That they failed to go undefeated has to be one of the biggest surprises in college basketball history.
And like I said, they were so great - their lone loss was in the "Game of the Century" in the gigantic Astrodome...and they lost by 2 points to #2 Houston when Kareem had a scratched cornea.
Then beat #1 Houston by about 40 points in the Final Four.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:38 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Haha of course there is: 1976 Indiana lost 0 games whereas 1968 UCLA lost 1. I'm aware of the context between Houston that season and Lew but facts and records hold that that UCLA team lost 1 game, the 1976 Indiana team lost 0 against the nation's 3rd ranked SOS. Hard to argue 1 loss against 0 losses with an 18 pt MOV against the 3rd toughest SOS.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 4:39 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Nope
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:05 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:
Hard to argue 1 loss against 0 losses with an 18 pt MOV against the 3rd toughest SOS.
So what?
1972 UCLA went 30-0
1973 UCLA went 30-0
Why does everyone make a big deal about 1976 Indiana going 32-0?
UCLA at one point was 60-0!
I don't why anyone would make a big deal about 1968's Game of the Century Astrodome loss to the #2 in the country (And then #1 - heading into the tournament) by 2 points...when UCLA then whipped them by 40 points in the Final Four.
Anybody can have a bad night; who gives a shite that 1976 Indiana went undefeated when it was common for UCLA to do it.
1968 UCLA beat teams by an average of 27 points and Indiana was like 17 points.
Oh, and one team had Kareem. So there's that.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:10 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
But the 1976 Hoosiers didn't lose whereas 1968 UCLA did and that Hoosiers team didn't have any bad nights that resulted in a loss that season
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:27 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
What happened to 1981-1982 North Carolina?
BOOM..............
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:30 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
SOS and MOV
All that matters.
ETA: When he finally gets around to revealing his age, we'll all have a good laugh about these "best of" threads for teams he never saw.
All that matters.
ETA: When he finally gets around to revealing his age, we'll all have a good laugh about these "best of" threads for teams he never saw.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:31 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:
They DEMOLISHED the toughest opponents with military efficiency that accurately reflected their genius head coach's approach and could defeat opponents from all angles. They embodied the term TEAM to the fullest extent.
Did YOU watch this happen???? Or are you going off stats????
Posted on 6/25/17 at 5:39 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
SOS and MOV
I'm tempted to start a drinking game based on how many times these are mentioned in his threads, but I don't want to die of alcohol poisoning.
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