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Sugar Bowl in trouble?
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/21/11 at 8:48 am
Last night On HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, allegations were revealed concerning the Sugar Bowl giving contributions to politicians. Might result in a little fallout. Anything in the local papers about this today, or is this old news?
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Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:23 am to MasonTiger
I saw that as well. I was looking for some fallout, but maybe they are acting swiftly to clear it up, as Goldberg mentioned in the piece.
It really is a sham that the bowls qualify for tax exempt status and then do very little direct "giving back" to the community. But I would imagine unless it is so exorbitant (Fiesta Bowl) that mamy will turn a blind eye to it because the big bowl games are such a HUGE draw and money maker.
Sadly, after watching the show, it showed me just how hard it will be to ever have a true playoff in college because of the money and clout all of the major bowls carry. They can pay the big bucks to keep politicians and college presidents on their side. I am convinced now that any type of playoff will have to be done within the bowl system.
It really is a sham that the bowls qualify for tax exempt status and then do very little direct "giving back" to the community. But I would imagine unless it is so exorbitant (Fiesta Bowl) that mamy will turn a blind eye to it because the big bowl games are such a HUGE draw and money maker.
Sadly, after watching the show, it showed me just how hard it will be to ever have a true playoff in college because of the money and clout all of the major bowls carry. They can pay the big bucks to keep politicians and college presidents on their side. I am convinced now that any type of playoff will have to be done within the bowl system.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:23 am to MasonTiger
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Sugar Bowl in trouble?
nope
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allegations were revealed concerning the Sugar Bowl giving contributions to politicians
The Sugar Bowl didn't do anything. Officals that work for the Sugar Bowl are alleged to have given illegal campaign contributions. Those officals may be in trouble.
Meanwhile, the we want a playoff crybaby medie will continue to beat the drum about how bad the bowl system is.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:26 am to slinger1317
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They can pay the big bucks to keep politicians and college presidents on their side
The politicians have no say in the matter either way. There is not some legal or regulatory hurdle toward having a playoff. These contributions are likely to help these slimy bowl officals get some benefit for themselves which has notthing to do with the merits of having a playoff vs bowls.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:29 am to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:30 am to MasonTiger
If the Fiesta bowl didn't lose its status over that fiasco I'm thinking that the Sugar Bowl will be fine.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:33 am to lighter345
Oh yeah, I love how the source is something called Playoff PAC, no agenda there 
I have no doubt some officals at the Sugar Bowl gave money to Blanco. It could be for a lot of reasons, one of those reasons is not to prevent a playoff, since the Gov of La has absolutle no say what so ever in whether the NCAA or BCS forms a playoff.
I have no doubt some officals at the Sugar Bowl gave money to Blanco. It could be for a lot of reasons, one of those reasons is not to prevent a playoff, since the Gov of La has absolutle no say what so ever in whether the NCAA or BCS forms a playoff.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:38 am to lighter345
lighter345, where did you find that...got a link?
Never mind...found it.
Never mind...found it.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 9:45 am
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:43 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:Playoffs are not the issue. The issue is possible corruption withing the bowl's organization and mismanagement of funds. I'm sure there will be more to come.
I have no doubt some officals at the Sugar Bowl gave money to Blanco. It could be for a lot of reasons, one of those reasons is not to prevent a playoff, since the Gov of La has absolutle no say what so ever in whether the NCAA or BCS forms a playoff.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 9:52 am to MasonTiger
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Playoffs are not the issue
Really? The source of the investigation is a group called Playoff PAC. I'm sure all they are invested in good clean government and the fact that this corruption involves a BCS bowl is purely a coincidence.
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The issue is possible corruption withing the bowl's organization and mismanagement of funds
and the individuals involved should be punished if found guilty.
Real sports and others will try and use this to paint the whole bowl system as corrupt, but what it should show to everyone is corruption is inevitable when people use the government for doleing out favors.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:22 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:You seem to be hellbent on an argument.
Playoffs are not the issue
Really? The source of the investigation is a group called Playoff PAC. I'm sure all they are invested in good clean government and the fact that this corruption involves a BCS bowl is purely a coincidence.
The issue is possible corruption withing the bowl's organization and mismanagement of funds
and the individuals involved should be punished if found guilty.
Real sports and others will try and use this to paint the whole bowl system as corrupt, but what it should show to everyone is corruption is inevitable when people use the government for doleing out favors.
To clarify, I agree, Real Sports and the Playoff PAC have agendas, no doubt. My point is that the IRS will not care. Like myself, they aren't opponents/proponents of either the bowl system or a playoff. They will only be concerned with the possibility of illegal distribution of funds by bowl employees. That's where the trouble will start.
This post was edited on 9/21/11 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/21/11 at 10:46 am to H-Town Tiger
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The politicians have no say in the matter either way.
Are you kidding? You don't think that representatives in Washington are in on this? They had Congressional hearings on the BCS a few years ago. I also remember Idaho's Senators getting involved a few years back pushing for Boise to get into a BCS bowl.
If you don't think the politicians can grease the wheels for or against a playoff, your insane.
Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:08 pm to MasonTiger
only thinkg I don't like about this whole mess is that they were giving money to Blanco, and she was an awful govenor.
I mean how are you supposed to run a state from the kitchen?
I mean how are you supposed to run a state from the kitchen?
Posted on 9/21/11 at 12:26 pm to MasonTiger
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My point is that the IRS will not care. Like myself, they aren't opponents/proponents of either the bowl system or a playoff. They will only be concerned with the possibility of illegal distribution of funds by bowl employees. That's where the trouble will start.
I agree, though its the bowl officals that will be in trouble, not the Sugar Bowl itself
Posted on 9/21/11 at 2:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The Sugar Bowl didn't do anything. Officals that work for the Sugar Bowl are alleged to have given illegal campaign contributions
Are you a lawyer? If not you should be
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Meanwhile, the we want a playoff crybaby medie will continue to beat the drum about how bad the bowl system is
The bowl system sucks
Posted on 9/21/11 at 2:17 pm to Kafka
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The bowl system sucks
it would be so much better for the smaller program to watch 8 big teams in a playoff while they sit a t home
Posted on 9/21/11 at 2:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
it was like 3 grand total given to Blanco
while HBO tried to frame it as the same millions done by the Fiesta
agenda trying for a playoff, they are actually making it harder
while HBO tried to frame it as the same millions done by the Fiesta
agenda trying for a playoff, they are actually making it harder
Posted on 9/21/11 at 2:56 pm to stapuffmarshy
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it was like 3 grand total given to Blanco
while HBO tried to frame it as the same millions done by the Fiesta
I didn't see it as HBO trying to make it look like the Fiesta fiasco. It did need to be brought to light, but it wasn't much money and they quickly got off the subject saying that the Sugar Bowl was going to take appropriate action.
I think it is crazy that these bowls enjoy tax exempt status. I am not trying to limit what they can pay their executives or anything, because these things are money machines, but they should have to pay their taxes just like every other business in the country.
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