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re: Strikeforce Heavyweight Tournament

Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:07 am to
Posted by ChalmetteChampion
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:07 am to
so who has he beat since fedor doesnt fight top competition but overeem does ?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:09 am to
Overeem has only had one fight in SF since becoming champ. He absolutely destroyed Bret Rodgers. Otherwise, all his fights have been overseas, mostly K-1 where he continues to dominate.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:10 am to
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This whole tournament will turn into a complete clusterfudge.. I'm pretty sure by the time it ends the final will end up being Daniel Cormier vs Steve Jennum


I was starting to think I was the only one who could see the future.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:15 am to
he has beaten the top kickboxers in the world. He dominated Rogers who was Fedors last win. The only way you'll beat this guy is if you somehow get him on his back, but the dude is so strong its going to be a tough task for anyone to get him on his back. He also just won a fight in Dream in about 30 seconds.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32616 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:16 am to
So the Overeem brothers could possibly fight each other??

And the other 1st round match-ups aren't until April, so the 2nd round wouldn't be until this summer at the earliest.

Posted by ChalmetteChampion
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:21 am to
i know who he's beaten but how can you say fedor hasnt fought anyone in years when he hasnt either ...
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:24 am to
Because Reem has been active and has been beating the top kick boxers in the world.

It is fair to critisize him some for not defending his SF title more than once though.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:27 am to
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i know who he's beaten but how can you say fedor hasnt fought anyone in years when he hasnt either ...


He has he has been facing the best in kickboxing. how many fights does Fedor have over the last couple years?
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 11:29 am
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:30 am to
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It is fair to critisize him some for not defending his SF title more than once though.

Rumored he was ducking fighting in america for awhile because he'd probably fail drug tests.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:31 am to
Yeah. I know. Probably true also. He has probably gotten his timing down on passing the tests now though. Do not think there is much doubt Reem is juiced up pretty big.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:58 pm to
Main Bouts (On Showtime):
-Fedor Emelianenko (230) vs. Antonio “Bigfoot” Silva (264)
-Andrei Arlovski (242) vs. Sergei Kharitonov (250)
-Shane Del Rosario (248) vs. Lavar Johnson (243)
-Chad Griggs (229) vs. Gian Villante (227)
-Valentijn Overeem (239) vs. Ray Sefo (249)


Preliminary Bouts (On HDNet):
-John Cholish (155.75) vs. Marc Stevens (156.5)*
-Igor Gracie (170.75) vs. John Salgado (170)
-Sam Oropeza (169.75) vs. Don Carlo-Clauss (170.5)
-Anthony Leone (146.2) vs. Josh Laberge (145.75)**
-Kevin Roddy (145.75) vs. Jason McLean (145.5)

*Cholish agreed to accept Stevens’ weight of 156.5 pounds even though it was slightly over the limit.

**Leone was given one hour to make the 146-pound limit for his fight.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12269 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:13 am to
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lol@fedor playing with his bellybutton. how does a guy with this build/weight/height dominate?
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7839 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:07 am to
I'm actually pretty interested in watch V.Overeem vs Sefo.
Should be a good fight. Valentijn hasn't been relevant in years and Sefo is trying to prove over-the-hill kickboxers can make a successful jump to MMA
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81265 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:11 am to
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I'm pretty sure by the time it ends the final will end up being Daniel Cormier vs Steve Jennum


shite, i was Cormier was an alternate or in the tourney.
Posted by JinFL
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Member since Oct 2004
3956 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:14 am to
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Didn't notice the fighters, just the hot ring girl in the back right, wow!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:22 am to
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lol@fedor playing with his bellybutton. how does a guy with this build/weight/height dominate?


Several reasons. A will to be the best and total focus throughout training and the perfect mindset at fight time.

As for his skill set, Fedor has power. His arms and shoulders as well as his legs have some size, he is just not lean. Then the way he throws the looping punches with his body weight behind them = power.

Then he has the best transition game of any HW IMO. He goes from a clinch to the ground and transitions better than just about anyone. He often lands in top position. It comes from all his years in sambo and practicing throws and landing on top where he has both GnP and submission skills that are pretty equal and very good.

Finally, hand speed. He throws hard, but for a heavyweight, his punches are actually lightening fast and he beats other HW's to the punch and follows up with great finishing. He doesn't give guys the chance to recover if he hurts them.

Just very well rounded in every aspect.
Posted by John Doe
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Member since Feb 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 11:58 am to
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Hasn't Werdum beaton both Fedor AND Overeem? Shouldn't he be considered one of the favorites?



Yes, he also beat Big Foot Silva. So he has a win over everyone on his side the bracket.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 12:14 pm to
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As for his skill set, Fedor has power. His arms and shoulders as well as his legs have some size, he is just not lean. Then the way he throws the looping punches with his body weight behind them = power.

He is unbelievable at punching this way but not a great way for someone to punch. Thats why he always has a broken hand after he fights.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 12:18 pm to
I agree. His looping puches generate more force, but are not good for injuries. Also, he has broken his hand with GnP from throwing hammerfists and striking with the side of his fist on his pinkie finger.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12269 posts
Posted on 2/12/11 at 2:39 pm to
he also throws those over-hand "casting" punches that land on the back of his hand. that's why he always breaks his hand.

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