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Take the saints game for example... There were so many penalties, by the third quarter, even Jim Henderson on 870 picked up on it.. There was zero rhythm to the game, no momentum could be had, players on defense cannot be physical with offensive skill positions, etc, etc...

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Exactly. The game was a slog - it was atrocious b/c of the penalties. I don't care that somebody who clearly didn't watch it intently is saying there were "only 14 penalties". The 14 penalties they DID call were brutal. And maybe there were were some that were declined or something but that still grate on your nerves and enjoyment of watching.

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Potential TD.. Commercial for review... Come back from commercial, announce TD stands..... XP is kicked, COMMERCIAL..... Kickoff out the back of the end zone.... COMMERCIAL

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This really only effects me for Sunday night and Monday night football. Sunday is Red Zone channel all day - maybe Saints or best game taking up the smaller TV

you two have it figured out, the games are pure slop and there's no rhythm which makes the gazillion commercial breaks even more unbearable.

honestly though, I fricking cringe watching 3rd and 2 to 4 for any team

it's a showcase demonstration on how teams simply don't know how to run the ball, and how poorly coached a lot of these teams are. Imagine a similar scenario, what if coaches routinely ran draw plays and rarely threw the ball on 3rd and really long...it's fricking boring.

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honestly though, I fricking cringe watching 3rd and 2 to 4 for any team

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Teams in 2014 got .3 first downs less per game via run compared to 2000.

Thsi goes back to other post where i feel that you're taking something that is factually accurate, but grossly exaggerating the actual effect of it.

We need to get Goodell out as commish. Everything was alright until he showed up.

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Teams in 2014 got .3 first downs less per game via run compared to 2000.

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do I need to point out the obvious question I have with this statistic?


compared to 2000, how many short and 3rd scenarios were there per game in 2014 with the ball getting tossed around like crazy.

and it's boring even when they do convert because they barely convert and it appears to be some monumental effort. I'm not saying it is, I'm saying how it appears, and it appears that teams struggle mightily on 3rd and short, when it used to be a no brainer to go jumbo package and send in the back.

coaches today instead of imposing their will on these plays, feel they need to outfox everyone...just look at the seahawks INT in the super bowl

it's too late anyway. the game is irrevocably fricked.

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do I need to point out the obvious question I have with this statistic?


compared to 2000, how many short and 3rd scenarios were there per game in 2014 with the ball getting tossed around like crazy.

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I don't know where to find conversion rates on 3rd and 2 are less, but I'd imagine they aren't much different now than in 2000 or whenever, but i'm guessing we can't prove that one, unless there's an article somewhere to dig up.

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it doesn't matter anyway, I can only point out what I see or how I interpret what I see

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Well no, it would 100% matter. It would either prove you to be correct, or prove that your eye test/bias clouds your judgment and what you think you see isn't actually so.

It's actually all that matters.

Not only that, you could be right that teams are running less/passing more, but they're successful than ever now, which woudl suggest they're doing the right thing. Or the opposite, which again, would mean you're right.

I think everyone is being too dramatic about the NFL. Sure, I think certain rules should be reviewed. However, I think the people who are blaming Goodell for today's game being shitty should keep these things in mind:

1. The NFL is a business. It's not like Goodell just woke up one day and said a QB should never get hit. His actions are caused by external factors. The science behind concussions is new and the masses are scared and outraged (rabble rabble crowd). They allow visceral emotions to take over and demand immediate action. Goodell, worried about PR, does what he can. Did he make the right decision? Probably not, but his actions were expected.

2. The NFL is changing the rules for player safety because former players from the "super badass era" are suing claiming the NFL knew about the dangers. So, if the players from the "greatest era in football" regret how the game was played, how do you expect the commissioner to act?

3. Finally, because awareness of CTE and how it affects sports is relatively new, it's typical for new rules to more err on the side of caution than to reflect the reality of the dangers.

In summary, I think everyone just needs to calm down and enjoy the game for what it is today.