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re: per cowherd, Jordan could not win a title in college
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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and a better post game
Lebron is definitely NOT better than Jordan in the post. Where do people come up with this?
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Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:34 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Lebron is a better defender and by a good bit.
BWAHAHAH
Lebron is a great defender. Jordan was First All-NBA Defensive team 9 times. Thats tied for the most in history. He was also defensive player of the year.
NO ONE IS A BETTER DEFENDER "BY A GOOD BIT"
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Shooting is pretty close
No way. Lebron is an average to bad shooter and gets his % up with his play around the rim. Something he obviously is better at Jordan due to size advantage. Although, Jordan had some sick fricking post moves. His footwork down low was a work of art. Kobe reminds me of Jordan the most in this aspect.
Lebron is a better passer, but as you say Jordan wasn't a slouch.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:36 pm to SDVTiger
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As an overall player LeBron is the best and debate about that is really getting old
That's all I can say Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:37 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Sure I am serious. In fact, I personally think Lebron is a BETTER basketball player right now, today, than Jordan ever was his entire career.
If I was an NBA owner and had to pick Lebron or Jordan to put on my team (all else being equal and both in their prime), I would take Lebron.
WOW, this might be the dumbest shite I have ever read on a message board..
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:38 pm to TigerBait2008
It blows my mind that people think Lebron is better at this point.
He might get there because he is a physical freak, but the guy doesn't have "IT". That killer instinct you could feel through the TV screen.
Jordan was going to win. You could see it on his face and in his play. Nothing was going to stop him. I have chills thinking about this shite haha.
He might get there because he is a physical freak, but the guy doesn't have "IT". That killer instinct you could feel through the TV screen.
Jordan was going to win. You could see it on his face and in his play. Nothing was going to stop him. I have chills thinking about this shite haha.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:42 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Jordan was going to win With Pippen. You could see it on his face and in his play With Pippen. Nothing was going to stop him Except an injury to Pippen. I have chills thinking about this shite haha.
FIFY
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:43 pm to TheCaterpillar
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LBJ vs. MJ: LeBron James can't yet claim Michael Jordan's crown
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THE REGULAR SEASON
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ADVANTAGE, JORDAN
Field goal percentage: 51.4 to James’ 48.3
Free throw percentage: 84.5 to James’ 74.6
Offensive rebounds: 1.7 per game to James’ 1.2
Steals: 2.7 per game to James’ 1.7
Blocked shots: 1.0 per game to James’ 0.8
Turnovers: 3.0 per game to James’ 3.3
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THE POSTSEASON
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Scoring: 34.6 points per game to James’ 28.5
Field goal percentage: 50.1 to James’ 46.9
3-point percentage: 36.0 to James’ 31.2
Free throw percentage: 83.4 to James’ 74.5
Steals: 2.3 per game to James’ 1.7
Blocked shots: 0.97 per game to James’ 0.95
Turnovers: 3.4 per game to James’ 3.6
CASE CLOSED
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:44 pm to theunknownknight
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Jordan was going to win With Pippen. You could see it on his face and in his play With Pippen. Nothing was going to stop him Except an injury to Pippen. I have chills thinking about this shite haha.
FIFY
Lol.
You're right Lebron didn't have any help winning his title.
When's the last time any NBA team won without a couple of studs?
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:45 pm to TigerBait2008
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LBJ vs. MJ: LeBron James can't yet claim Michael Jordan's crown
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THE REGULAR SEASON
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ADVANTAGE, JORDAN
Field goal percentage: 51.4 to James’ 48.3
Free throw percentage: 84.5 to James’ 74.6
Offensive rebounds: 1.7 per game to James’ 1.2
Steals: 2.7 per game to James’ 1.7
Blocked shots: 1.0 per game to James’ 0.8
Turnovers: 3.0 per game to James’ 3.3
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THE POSTSEASON
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Scoring: 34.6 points per game to James’ 28.5
Field goal percentage: 50.1 to James’ 46.9
3-point percentage: 36.0 to James’ 31.2
Free throw percentage: 83.4 to James’ 74.5
Steals: 2.3 per game to James’ 1.7
Blocked shots: 0.97 per game to James’ 0.95
Turnovers: 3.4 per game to James’ 3.6
CASE CLOSED
DAMN
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:46 pm to TigerBait2008
I think Jordan is better than Lebron but it's close. Comparing stats is meaningless when Jordan's best years came in the 80's. Poor slow competition and YES, terrible defense. Absolutely terrible.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:46 pm to theunknownknight
Pippen? are you serious? That's your argument, Pippen? GTFO
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:46 pm to TheCaterpillar
Wow nice work
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:47 pm to TheCaterpillar
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When's the last time any NBA team won without a couple of studs?
Never. Although what Lebron did with a TERRIBLE Cavs team was pretty incredible.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:47 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Pippen? are you serious? That's your argument, Pippen? GTFO
Thanks for showing your NBA ignorance.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:49 pm to TigerBait2008
damn 
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
Case closed on regular season?
Not so much...
Not so much...
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First, a statistical comparison of Michael and LeBron:
Per game statistics
LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Points
27.6
30.1
Rebounds
7.2
6.2
Assists
6.9
5.3
Steals
1.7
2.3
FG percentage
.484
.497
3PT percentage
.332
.327
Minutes
39.9
38.3
PER
27.3
27.9
eFG percentage
.516
.509
These regular season numbers show the remarkable equality between the two players. LeBron certainly needs to have the longevity of MJ, which is undoubtedly history yet to be written, but these guys are nearly equal in all categories. LeBron’s PRA (points, rebounds, and assists combined) equate to 41.7. Jordan is virtually identical, at 41.6.
Jordan has an edge in scoring ability, but LeBron’s overall offensive game is also based on a guard’s ability to facilitate.
The number that should strike you as most shocking is three-point percentage. LeBron is often criticized for being a one-dimensional scorer whose sheer strength propels him to the basket, but he has a slightly higher 3PT percentage than Jordan. LeBron is often encapsulated in what people think he should be—in part probably with a desire to defend Jordan’s legacy. But looking at the numbers provides the foundation for the argument that one day the two can likely be prepared.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:51 pm to theunknownknight
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Thanks for showing your NBA ignorance.
says the guy who just claimed defense in the 80s NBA was poor. smh
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:53 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
As for defense...
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Defensively, Jordan has a DPOY award to his name—something LeBron has yet to add to his résumé. But nobody in their right mind would say Jordan is a far superior defensive player. At 6’8”, the 250-pound monster can compete with big men like David West in the 2012 NBA playoffs. Not only that, but LeBron has proven he can defend the quickest players in the NBA. Remember the game when he shut down the 2011 NBA MVP, point guard Derrick Rose?
As LeBron said himself, defending power forwards and centers is taxing because of the physicality down low that is not necessary as a perimeter defender. Yet he still managed to put up staggering offensive numbers in 2012, when called upon to defend forwards/centers.
And at 6’6”, Michael Jordan can never claim that diversity in ability to defend all five positions on the court. Even 6’9” point guard Magic Johnson was able to play the center position at a high level on the NBA’s biggest stage. (The two MJ’s both roughly weighed 220 pounds.)
The edge defensively goes to LeBron—he can defend every position on the floor. Enough said.
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:59 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
You think Lebron could guard the centers from Jordan's era?
Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:59 pm to SDVTiger
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As an overall player LeBron is the best
No he isn't. A better overall athlete is what you meant to say, judging by your subsequent arguments. But no one has been a better basketball player than MJ.
This post was edited on 1/25/13 at 2:00 pm
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