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Pedro Alvarez is benched for tonight's game, Clint Hurdle gives stupid reason

Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:30 pm
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:30 pm
quote:

"We're putting our best pitcher on the mound. Want to put our best defensive team behind him."



What the f does that even mean, you put your best player on the field.

Now Pedro is 2 for 17 lifetime against Arrieta, so maybe that has something to do with it, but don't say that stupid shite.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:34 pm to
I'm glad he's not playing. Because somehow in a game involving the Cubs and Pirates, he would somehow hit a homerun against the Cardinals.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:39 pm to
It means he's a terrible first baseman, which he is. I guess it makes some sense going against Arrieta.
Posted by QuiteTheConundrum
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:39 pm to
Ignorant on the subject of Alvarez, but is his defense that bad?

Isn't he powerful too?
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:41 pm to
How the hell does putting your best defensive lineup on the field not make sense to you? It makes perfect frickin sense.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:41 pm to
You play your best nine, not your nine best.-
Skip Bertman
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

but is his defense that bad?


Yeah
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:43 pm to
Makes sense to me

I was more baffled by La Stella playing and hitting in the five hole for the Cubs.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:48 pm to
Because you also have to bat. Sean Rodriquez hasn't been a starter all season for a reason, because Pedro is better.

Sitting him makes no sense
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

What the f does that even mean


Seems pretty self-explanatory.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60176 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:50 pm to
Defensive stats and metrics are not the end all, but his are fricking horrific


But I see what you're saying. If he's not the best option for this one game why was he starting all year?
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:54 pm to
I don't know if I agree with sitting Pedro but I mean, I can see where he's comign from. If he's expecting a 1-0 game, a good defensive first baseman might be the difference.

He's also benched Aramis Ramirez.


On the flipside, if it's a 1-0 game, a solo shot from El Toro may be the difference as well.

Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11351 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:27 pm to
I assume he thinks Rodriguez's defensive edge will outweigh Pedro's offensive edge. Not sure if I agree, but Cole does generate a bunch of ground balls. And the Pirates have a very sharp analytics department, I'm sure they had a say in this. This also leaves Pedro as a prime pinch hit option when the situation calls.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65825 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 5:28 pm to
He's worst defensive first baseman in baseball in the last few years with a -2.3 dWAR. He routinely drops regular throws to first, much less anything low or heaven forbid a bouncer and with Aramis Ramirez at 3rd, that is one awful infield defensively, add in Kang out as well.

You can't give away outs tonight. Arrieta doesn't give up HR's, which means Alvarez would be a solid 0/4 with 4K's tonight. His value is more in bench power late when Arrieta is out of the game as the Cubs bullpen is pretty terrible and gives up the long ball, good move IMO.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:17 pm to
Bump for Rodriguez bobbling.
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
50347 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:17 pm to
Good thing they brought in Sean for defense :eyeroll:
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65825 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:21 pm to
It bounced which means Pedro would have let it go into dugout.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36423 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:24 pm to
It was a horrible throw by Walker, and there's a good chance Alvarez would have dropped it too
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

How the hell does putting your best defensive lineup on the field not make sense to you? It makes perfect frickin sense.
not your best offense? Or simply, best option to win?
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11351 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:59 pm to
Well Rodriguez never batted.
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