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re: Official Wk 4 College FB Bet Thread (Swiggety Swooty, I'm Commin for that Booty)

Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:47 pm to
Cinci +10
aTm -6.5
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:52 pm to
LSU/Syracuse line is up... am I the only one who sees value in Syracuse?

LSU stock is high after the Auburn beating but they still don't have the pass game figured out and Syracuse's defense hasn't played BAD... basically you are asking if LSU can score 30+ on the road in this game.

Haven't made a play yet but am considering Syracuse in this spot, and I am sure the line will grow even higher between now and Saturday.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:04 pm to
If that QB doesnt play it could be a 56-0 win for LSU
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:06 pm to
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If that QB doesnt play it could be a 56-0 win for LSU


Were they going to score even with their QB?

I think this line needs to be capped looking at Syracuse's defense vs. LSU's offense.
Posted by maclauer
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:23 pm to
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Were they going to score even with their QB? I think this line needs to be capped looking at Syracuse's defense vs. LSU's offense.


Well, with a 5th-string walk-on starting for Cuse, LSU's defense might also be LSU's offense.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Well, with a 5th-string walk-on starting for Cuse, LSU's defense might also be LSU's offense.


If an end of the bench walk on could be playing for Syracuse then why is the line only -24.5? Something isn't right here
Posted by FulshearTiger
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:31 pm to
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they still don't have the pass game figured out

You don't know this at all.

LSU probably has as much WR talent as any team in the country and Brandon Harris has an absolute cannon for an arm and has not turned the football over yet.

Those are facts and outside of that no one knows much about the passing game because LSU hasn't needed it yet.

LSU is going to absolutely outclass Syracuse by a wide wide margin at every single position in this game.

But are you really willing to bet against Brandon Harris being able to play action with Fournette and hit Dural on a couple big throws down field? And are you willing to bet against the LSU running game being able to put up another 300 yards?

And remember...this defense now has the ability to get after the passer and will force turnovers against this QB coming off the street.

This is one where I can see not betting LSU, but I can't fathom being excited about taking Syracuse.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:41 pm to
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LSU is going to absolutely outclass Syracuse by a wide wide margin at every single position in this game


If this is the case then why is the line only 24.5?

This is exactly what dcrews(or whoever it was) was talking about when they said they play numbers, not teams. A team that truly outclasses the opponent by a wide margin at every position should be favored by more.
Posted by FulshearTiger
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:46 pm to
I'm not sure about you but I would consider -24.5 a pretty damn wide margin for a team traveling as far as LSU will be and playing an 11 AM game the week after playing back to back SEC games.

That's no where near enough to make me feel comfortable to put money on Syracuse to be able to stay close to LSU.

I have a real hard time believing Syracuse can score double digits.

Posted by LSUShock
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:47 pm to
I'm on TCU -6.5 as my only play of the week so far.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:56 pm to
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have a real hard time believing Syracuse can score double digits.


I agree, I can see Syracuse getting shut out in the same way Boston College did last Friday vs. FSU.

But FSU was in a similar situation, road game in the Northeast and only scored 14. They too have a Heisman worthy candidate at running back and arguably a better QB.

That is the game that keeps popping into my mind when I look at this game.
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:57 pm to
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I'm on TCU -6.5 as my only play of the week so far.


Is the line down to -6.5? I am only seeing 7.5, 7 in a few places.
Posted by rawDAWG333
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:03 pm to
How bad is TCUs defense going to be? Aren't they down a lot of starters?
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 2:04 pm
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:07 pm to
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How bad is TCUs defense going to be? Aren't they down a lot of starters?


They returned 6 starters from their Peach Bowl team last year.

5 of those guys are injured or out, so they are down to 1 Peach Bowl starter.

Also, 3 of the first year starters who replaced the lost Peach Bowl starters are out.

Patterson said 2 walk ons will be in the 2 deep this week. True freshmen will start at both linebacker spots. If Davion Pierson doesn't play, the entire defensive line will be 2s.
Posted by rawDAWG333
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:10 pm to
Damn you think their offense will be able to score enough to cover -6.5? Thinking about buying a half and rolling with TCU
Posted by maclauer
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:12 pm to
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I agree, I can see Syracuse getting shut out in the same way Boston College did last Friday vs. FSU. But FSU was in a similar situation, road game in the Northeast and only scored 14. They too have a Heisman worthy candidate at running back and arguably a better QB. That is the game that keeps popping into my mind when I look at this game.


FSU returned just 1 of 5 on the OL and was manhandled at the LOS by BC's stout front 7. I know they played nobodies besides FSU, but BC has given up just one TD in 3 games, while Cuse got lit up through the air by Wake and CMU.

I don't see a resemblance, myself.


Edit: probably enough about this game, I just don't like the "Vegas must know something I don't" talk when it's a 24.5 spread.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:19 pm to
Anyone like Over 46.5 as a play for LSU/Cuse?
Posted by accnodefense
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Damn you think their offense will be able to score enough to cover -6.5? Thinking about buying a half and rolling with TCU


Depends on what TCU offense shows up

They have played well in road games in Texas

Road games outside of Texas, not so much

It's a tough spot for them. BUT... TCU has played their best with backs against the well. I remember in 2012 they lost Pachall at QB and got beat at home by Iowa State by 14 that week. Everyone jumped ship and they were pretty big dogs at Baylor the next game, but won by 28 outright.

The offense is good enough to carry this team, IMO, at least until the Oklahoma game on November 21. If they can't get healthy by that one they are fricked. I think the offense is good enough to beat Baylor in a shootout at home.
Posted by LSUShock
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:23 pm to
It is on my book. I hope the injury talk keeps bumping that line down. I'm like you. I think their offense is good enough to carry them through their defensive struggles. I also don't see this spread being under double digits if Texas Tech hadn't won last week.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 2:30 pm to
Michigan -5.5
Tenn +2
ULM +38
UK -3
Arkansas +7.5

19-11 ytd
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