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Oakland Raiders to San Diego?

Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:38 am
Posted by hsfolk
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:38 am
Where the San Diego Chargers ultimately wind up could heavily influence where the Oakland Raiders play in the future.

The Chargers and Rams are still actively discussing a Los Angeles partnership, according to sources, and the two sides are aiming for an answer in the coming weeks.

If the Chargers do move to Los Angeles, the Raiders could move to San Diego for the 2017 or 2018 season, according to a source.

One source this weekend called a Raiders move to San Diego "very viable."

The Raiders are expected to remain in Oakland for the 2016 season, but beyond that is very much in question.

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Posted by 805tiger
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:40 am to
I don't see three teams in Southern California working out.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:24 am to
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The Chargers and Rams are still actively discussing a Los Angeles partnership, according to sources, and the two sides are aiming for an answer in the coming weeks.

If the Chargers do move to Los Angeles, the Raiders could move to San Diego for the 2017 or 2018 season, according to a source.

One source this weekend called a Raiders move to San Diego "very viable."


Why would the Chargers move to LA if there is a viable enough option for the Raiders in SD? If the stadium plan passes the public vote in June then the Chargers stay. If it doesn't they go to LA and I highly doubt the citizens of SD reject funding a stadium for their team of 50 years and then fund a stadium for their arch rival of 50 years?

The Raiders will reach an agreement for a new stadium in Oakland or the east bay area, relocate to LA, or if LA is not an option San Antonio, St. Louis, London, Toronto, or some other city not named San Diego.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:32 am to
it would be stupid

1 big reason for chargers wanting to move to LA, was that if they stayed in SD< and let d-bag move to LA, they would lose a nice portion of their fan base.(i think spanos quoted 40-50%????) He could not afford that.

So leaving Oakland for San Diego is Dumb

Plus, the SD charger fans would never change to Raider fans, they hate each other with a passion.
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11267 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:35 am to
That would be like the Falcons moving to New Orleans. Will not happen.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:37 am to
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San Antonio, St. Louis, London, Toronto, or some other city not named San Diego.


The Jags are going to London.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:38 am to
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I don't see three teams in Southern California working out.


So one team leaves SD and another enters. No.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73578 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:42 am to
Its happening

Davis wants to be in SD and everyone here is jumping on board

Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:51 am to
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The Jags are going to London.


Link?
Posted by hsfolk
Member since Sep 2009
18538 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:51 am to
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The Jags are going to London.


& changing their name to London Shaguars
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Oakland Raiders to San Diego? quote: The Jags are going to London. & changing their name to London Shaguars



Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:40 am to
This reshuffling is so idiotic.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:49 am to
Los Angeles used to be the league's boogey-man, to scare cities into giving into the demands of teams threatening to relocate. Now that Los Angeles can no longer be that boogey-man, San Diego will likely be one of those cities to take up the slack, albeit a weaker version.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:27 pm to
What a clusterfrick

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:42 pm to
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Los Angeles used to be the league's boogey-man, to scare cities into giving into the demands of teams threatening to relocate. Now that Los Angeles can no longer be that boogey-man, San Diego will likely be one of those cities to take up the slack, albeit a weaker version.



No. The Chargers have been trying to get a new stadium since 2003 and if the voters reject the funding on the ballot in June then SD will lose the Chargers and will never get another team.

St. Louis on the other hand came up with a plan in 3 years and the only reason they are not turning dirt right now is because the owner did not want to be there. So the NFL will have St. Louis and London to use as threats.

Plus the big rush of new stadiums is over. The Chargers and Raiders are the only teams that have not renovated or built new stadiums since the new stadium craze started. Once the Chargers and Raiders situations get sorted out by 2018, the oldest stadiums will be:
Lambeau which is not going anywhere and has seen massive amounts of recent renovations.
The Superdome, which has plenty of seating, luxury suites, and the square footage to be competitive with other stadiums for Super Bowls and mega events.
Arrowhead which like Lambeau isn't going anywhere and underwent a major renovation in the last 10 years.
Ralph Wilson Stadium in Buffalo which part of the Bills lease a few years ago included having a new stadium at the end of the 10 year lease. However the new owner is a Buffalo native and also owns the NHL team in Buffalo. If they don't get a new stadium they will head to Toronto.

The other stadiums are all football specific stadium and can be updated and upgraded. Why would Nashville or Tampa replace a 25 year old stadium that can easily be upgraded for a fraction of the cost? The majority of the stadiums that were replace were multi-purpose cookie cutters that lacked the ability to be upgraded with revenue producing premium seats or stadiums like the old Tampa stadium that lacked the ability to be upgraded.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73578 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 1:07 pm to
The Chargers want to move downtown and the city owns the land at Qualcomm

They dont want to buy more land and tear it up dtown plus the logistics of people getting into the area is nightmare

It would be the best but the City isnt really budging on it

Local Talk radio is saying Davis is meeting with Faulconer this weekend about that qualcomm sight. Also Larry Ellison might buy a stake in the Raidrs and he loves the qualcomm sight for RE develpment around the stadium
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45202 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 2:06 pm to
The Raiders will never move to San Diego because the Rams and Chargers would wage war against it and Mike Davis does not have enough influence among the owners to counter.

I would not be surprised to see the Chargers move to LA. First, I read in the San Diego Union Tribune that the value of the Chargers would be exponentially greater in LA even if a new stadium is built in San Diego. Moving to LA means more money. Second, the relationship between the mayor and administration of San Diego and the owner of the Chargers is absolutely toxic. There is tremendous animosity between the parties.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 2:18 pm to
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I would not be surprised to see the Chargers move to LA. First, I read in the San Diego Union Tribune that the value of the Chargers would be exponentially greater in LA even if a new stadium is built in San Diego. Moving to LA means more money. Second, the relationship between the mayor and administration of San Diego and the owner of the Chargers is absolutely toxic. There is tremendous animosity between the parties.


1. The Chargers have until March 23rd to reach an agreement to move to LA for this season and Jan of 2017 for next year and an extension of that deadline is possible if the NFL feels like a deal is close for SD. The Raiders can't move until the Chargers decline.
2. In 2019, the Rams will rival the Cowboys in value and they were in the both quarter of the league last year. So yeah the Chargers or Raiders would become a lot more valuable if they moved to LS.
3. If the Chargers reached an agreement to stay in SD the ties would heal. Tom Benson tried to move the Saints to San Antonio after Katrina and had been threatening for years.. It was unsafe for him to return to the state, but then the team started winning and now he is liked by most Saints fans. Winning is a cure all.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45202 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 5:38 pm to
One big thing about the Saints is Benson got a payout from the state and the NFL encouraged, some say forcefully, to stay in NO. They did not want the image of abandoning the city after Katrina.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 1/24/16 at 5:56 pm to
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One big thing about the Saints is Benson got a payout from the state and the NFL encouraged, some say forcefully, to stay in NO. They did not want the image of abandoning the city after Katrina.




I was saying that winning fixes image problems real fast. If the Saints had come back and stunk it up like they did pre-Katrina then Tom Benson would still be the most hated man in La. So if the Chargers stayed in SD and they started winning AFC West titles, AFC championships, and a SB or 2 then the fans would forget all about this mess.
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