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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:14 am to MagicCityBlazer
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:14 am to MagicCityBlazer
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That is how the legal system works. It is unfortunate but the standard cannot be allegation=guilty, period.
I didn't say it should be allegation = guilty. Rape is one of the few crimes where the defense can basically put the accuser on trial.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:15 am to MagicCityBlazer
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Which gets back to my point that ordinary hetero men do not think about raping people because its disgusting to them.
I think that's a hope of yours. I hope it, too. But I'm not sure what sets people apart who are rapists other than they commit rape. You're making it sound like a person is destined to commit rape because of their psychological makeup. I'm not sure what that means.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:16 am to Sophandros
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Rape is one of the few crimes where the defense can basically put the accused on trial.
what?
you don't have "burglary shield" laws or "robbery shield" laws. there are "rape shield" laws
rape is one of the few crimes when the defense CANNOT put the accused on trial
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:16 am to Sophandros
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Rape is one of the few crimes where the defense can basically put the accuser on trial.
lolwat?
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She just has to tell the truth.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:21 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:18 am to the808bass
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I think that's a hope of yours. I hope it, too. But I'm not sure what sets people apart who are rapists other than they commit rape. You're making it sound like a person is destined to commit rape because of their psychological makeup. I'm not sure what that means.
It means that most men will never even entertain the idea of raping someone the same way most men don't think of robbing a store or committing arson.
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I think that's a hope of yours.
Its extremely hateful to say that men are rapists just because they are men.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:19 am to MagicCityBlazer
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If it really happened she just has to tell the truth.
How do you know she is telling the truth?
Nice edit
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:20 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:19 am to MagicCityBlazer
quote:Who said that?
Its extremely hateful to say that men are rapists just because they are men.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:20 am to TC16
quote:Magic is on your side. Take it easy.
How do you know she is telling the truth?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:20 am to AngryBeavers
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You sound very scared of being falsely accused of rape. I am not sure why anyone would have such a fear unless you engage in borderline rapey behavior...
Great argument. What else you got? People who support privacy rights have something to hide? People who think marijuana should be legalized are all potheads? If somebody is arguing that the legal drinking age should be lowered, that just means he's 19 and pissed because he can't drink?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:20 am to AngryBeavers
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You sound very scared of being falsely accused of rape. I am not sure why anyone would have such a fear unless you engage in borderline rapey behavior...
I'm terrified of this. I've seen multiple people go through scares where the woman gets mad at the end of a relationship and accuses the male. It's a fricking scary world out there, where simple words can destroy a person's life.
I don't like touching people, and will actively avoid touching people like the plague; however, I've been accused of physical sexual harassment BECAUSE I PISSED A WOMAN OFF FOR NOT TAKING HER SHIFT. The manager watched the tape, saw that nothing happened, and you know what he did to the woman falsely accusing me? Nothing.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:21 am to the808bass
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Who said that?
You did.
And it was hateful.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:22 am to MagicCityBlazer
No, I didn't say it. You wrongly inferred it from something I said.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:22 am to the808bass
No I'm actually not on any side... Of course it'll look that way as I'm a FSU fan but I've said from the beginning... I'm not going to defend Winston "to the death"... I don't even know the guy beyond a few interviews
I'm not going to be up in arms on here with any of you guys/girls over someone I can't say I know absolutely didnt do this. But I know showing myself as a Nole fan makes it easy to think that.
But just because she says "he raped me" does NOT mean it will go to trial.
I'm not going to be up in arms on here with any of you guys/girls over someone I can't say I know absolutely didnt do this. But I know showing myself as a Nole fan makes it easy to think that.
But just because she says "he raped me" does NOT mean it will go to trial.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:23 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:22 am to MagicCityBlazer
Then all the talk about her history, what she wore, etc would be off limits.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:22 am to TC16
Aight. That's a remarkably rational position.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:23 am to Sophandros
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Rape is one of the few crimes where the defense can basically put the accuser on trial.
Actually it's the exact opposite. Have you not been paying attention?
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:24 am to the808bass
MCB
808
You really said male sexuality may equal rapist.
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Which gets back to my point that ordinary hetero men do not think about raping people because its disgusting to them.
808
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I think that's a hope of yours [...]
You really said male sexuality may equal rapist.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:24 am to Sophandros
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I didn't say it should be allegation = guilty. Rape is one of the few crimes where the defense can basically put the accuser on trial.
Lulz.
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:24 am to AngryBeavers
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You sound very scared of being falsely accused of rape. I am not sure why anyone would have such a fear unless you engage in borderline rapey behavior...
having sex with any girl who has had any alcohol is putting yourself at risk for "engaging in rapey behavior"
*ETA: i'm a criminal defense lawyer, and i'm telling all of you males who engage in sex with girls who have been drinking that you are putting yourself at risk for rape charges every time you do it
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:25 am to LaBornNRaised
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If he raped her then he should go to jail for life with no parole. If she consented to sexual relations then later regretted it and is making up the rape afterwards, she should go to jail for life. Unreal story.
This.
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