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Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:32 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:32 pm to lsupride87
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These comments were valid?
I really don't feel like getting into gotcha games over semantics. His original issue has as some validity, though there is no evidence a disproportionate # of blacks are killed/arrested by police compared to crimes committed.
His rhetoric was inflammatory and counter productive. He seems clearly influenced by his radical gf and most radicals just spout nonsensical stuff about broad issues without specifics which makes it hard to solve the problem. I suspect I'm many cases they don't want to work on solving certain problems they just want to be "activists".
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:35 pm to DelU249
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You need a $10 digital antenna sold everywhere
That it's cheap and easy to get doesn't mean cord cutters all get it is all, so some decline in network viewing could be a result of it
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Every cord cutter I know watches the nfl
I know of one that doesn't but he wasn't a an NFL fan to begin with. Still how are those people being counted towards ratings?
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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As for Kap his original comments about police brutality are valid, there's an issue there but ultimately his rhetoric is counter productive. Which begs the question does he and other player "activists" really want to do something or do they just want "protest" i.e. Virtue signaling cause the awareness has been made, so take some action toward helping otherwise what's the point?
No they aren't, and I am a liberal and also understand how statistics work. Blacks are not killed at a higher rate than whites when involved in a police altercation. You can choose to ignore the facts that they commit more crimes, especially black males, as only 6% of the population commits more than 50% of murders. Let that sink in for a minute.
In 2016, there were 8383 arrests for murder with 4379 of those arrested being black. That is 4 times the rate of their representation in the population for both sexes. Whites are less than 1%.
Violent crimes as a whole? 38.7% committed by blacks which is more than 3 times their rate in the population. Whites committed more violent crimes overall, but at 58.4% of all crimes its at 0.8 times their population. Note this includes Hispanics with whites.
In other words, a black person by statistics is more than 3.8 times more likely to commit that crime than a white person.
Now despite that to date in 2017, 782 people have been killed by police so far with 378 of those (50.3%) being white. 183 Blacks have been killed (24.3%). Seeing as blacks are arrested for 28.3% of crimes, they are killed roughly equal to their crime rate.
Hispanic and White are not separated based on the FBI crime stats, so if you include both, they were killed in 528/752 police fatalities (70.2%) with them being responsible for 68.9% of crimes, meaning they are more likely to be killed than blacks with simple statistics.
Note, this is for all crimes which ingores the face that blacks are responsible for much more of violent crime than overall crime when it comes to their proportion.
The fact is that Kap's entire stance is utter bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:40 pm to DelU249
Someone please let me know when I'm supposed to stop watching.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:43 pm to DelU249
You are obsessed with this shite
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:44 pm to wilceaux
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All TV ratings are down.
true
no way to get ratings on all the shite i stream illegally
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:50 pm to Yak
quote:because I hold a grudge and no one believed me when I started saying the ratings were going to start declining for precisely these reasons
OK, cool, but why are you so adamant about this issue?
also goodell's inadequacies fascinate me. I wouldn't want him to help me with a business strategy project in school let alone run my business. he's living off of tag's good work...and slowly ruining it.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
NFL's TV model is beyond antiquated. This week a large chunk of America will be forced to watch the 49ers vs. Cowboys. Who on earth would want to watch that shite?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:03 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Yeah, OP seems to assume that when someone cuts the cord they will just turn to the antennae box to watch whatever is on their local CBS/FOX. I know more people that stream whatever game they want then watch whatever game is over the air.
The internet is where most people under 35 get their TV entertainment now.
The internet is where most people under 35 get their TV entertainment now.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:06 pm to DelU249
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Cord cutting was in response to markets being down across the board
those games are on network television
that means free over the air tv.
A) Not all of them.
B) Cord cutting is changing viewing habits altogether. I cut the cord, and as a result, I've been conditioned to avoid basically anything with commercials. I've got to REALLY want to watch something to sit through commercials, so I'll watch LSU and the Saints, and that's about it. I'll hang around and pick up a game when I see it's an upset brewing on Saturdays, but I'm simply not sitting there like I've done in the past.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:07 pm to Ancient Astronaut
quote:Well, for local market ratings, which is what this thread is discussing, what other cities want to watch dont matter.....
This week a large chunk of America will be forced to watch the 49ers vs. Cowboys. Who on earth would want to watch that shite?
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:10 pm to DelU249
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It’s a lot of things, but the prevalent thing posted on this board all year is that there’s no decline in interest and the ratings are impacted by several external one time events and luck of the draw with teams on national broadcasts
That's simply not true, at least on such a broad place as this entire board.
The most consistent thing I've seen from people is the idea that the NFL ratings are down, but they're still an absolute behemoth nationally. They're down from the peak, and there are multiple reasons that all play a part.
It's not just cord cutting. It's not just the protest. It's not just the quality of the product. It's not just the decline of fantasy football among casual observers. etc.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:19 pm to slackster
Until late last month every week came with a built in excuse
Starting with sports media outlets. You cannot ignore an entire year of denial. Last year it was explained away most commonly with the election as the culprit. This year it was hurricanes, matchups, etc. I can start posting articles and bumping threads if you like.
Of course it’s still a behemoth. But the difference in what networks pay now and what they’re going to pay when the rights are being negotiated again is serious cash motherfricking money...and if not fixed they’re going to forecast future declines into their bid.
We’re in year 2 if a sustained and growing decline. There’s a hole in the ship and no one has plugged it so ratings declines will ccontinue
NFL is fine right now, networks are getting teamed. Still a behemoth but tell that to the networks but it’s not as if the networks didn’t pay for the ratings before the slump with the expectation they will continue to increase
This isn’t some small thing
Starting with sports media outlets. You cannot ignore an entire year of denial. Last year it was explained away most commonly with the election as the culprit. This year it was hurricanes, matchups, etc. I can start posting articles and bumping threads if you like.
Of course it’s still a behemoth. But the difference in what networks pay now and what they’re going to pay when the rights are being negotiated again is serious cash motherfricking money...and if not fixed they’re going to forecast future declines into their bid.
We’re in year 2 if a sustained and growing decline. There’s a hole in the ship and no one has plugged it so ratings declines will ccontinue
NFL is fine right now, networks are getting teamed. Still a behemoth but tell that to the networks but it’s not as if the networks didn’t pay for the ratings before the slump with the expectation they will continue to increase
This isn’t some small thing
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:22 pm to DelU249
Probably because I'm watching for free on different free streams over the net.
Pasta Vison ftw
Pasta Vison ftw
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That it's cheap and easy to get doesn't mean cord cutters all get it is all, so some decline in network viewing could be a result of it
And it all depends where you live. We got a digital Antenna to pick up ABC, NBC and CBS for sports and all we got was PBS and Univision and Telemundo. So all the Antenna gave us was Seasame Street and Soccer.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:23 pm to lsupride87
You’re the only one reading the tea leaves here
Not only is it every market, the 3 that didn’t decline are Tampa (meh), Detroit (meh) and Kansas City (undefeated)
To me it’s undeniable that it’s an issue of consumer interest
Not only is it every market, the 3 that didn’t decline are Tampa (meh), Detroit (meh) and Kansas City (undefeated)
To me it’s undeniable that it’s an issue of consumer interest
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:25 pm to DelU249
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Spin it
The play is terrible, and the QB's are worse.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:26 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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So all the Antenna gave us was Seasame Street and Soccer.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:35 pm to Geauxgurt
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The fact is that Kap's entire stance is utter bullshite
Yes and No, i 100% agree with your stats , i Made the point in a separate post. But I do think there is a valid issue regarding police "brutality" or harassment or however you want to phrase it (see the video of the white nurse in Utah being arrested for not drawing an unconscious patients blood w/out a warrant) and that will disproportionately affect blacks and other poor people in part because those groups commit more crime.
There is not an epidemic of blacks being killed by police but there are some individual stories of unarmed and or innocent people killed by police that merit attention.
I do think his whole stance is overblown self righteousness and ultimately does more harm to his "cause" than good.'
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:39 pm to DelU249
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To me it’s undeniable that it’s an issue of consumer interest
Honestly, are people really debating that?
Even if the "excuse" was the election, the point still remains - people aren't tuning into the NFL at the same clip that have in the past. People are choosing to watch something else or perhaps nothing at all.
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