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re: New Baylor lawsuit cites 52 rapes by football players in 4 years

Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:22 pm to
We suck.
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:26 pm to
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Who keeps count of 31 football players committing 52 acts of rape? That's super specific. and decides not to go to the police at any point?! That's a hell of an accusation! This is just so far fetched. I'm betting some wild arse kids including multiple football players were having sex parties and someone participating was regretting it and threatening to spill the beans which would get them all in trouble...then out of fear of mommy and daddy finding out, who's paying for their college at a Baptist university...they yelled rape. That sounds more plausible than a culture of christian kids deciding to be serial rapists because some coaches told them its ok.



Yeah.... Listen, I think a lot of rape stats are skewed by the "regret" thing, it is actually pretty common, but in this particular case, you do not end up with 52 rape accusations over a 3 year span and ALL of them are fake. Not happening. There are definitely some real rapes in there, which is evil and terrifying.
Posted by double d
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 7:49 am to
The big thing is why weren't these brought to the police at the time? I know victims sometimes are scared to report rapes but this many? I think this is more BS than fact.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:34 am to
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the "regret" thing, it is actually pretty common


No it's not
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:02 am to
u go get raped. seriously if you go to baylor you go get raped
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:03 am to
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A Dallas-area high school athlete, according to the suit, said former assistant coach Kendall Briles once asked him, "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:05 am to
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Baylor & Art are getting blacked balled



Um, ya, deservedly so.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 11:32 am to
here is my real question


if there were 52 rapes including 5 gang rapes

and no one ever went to the police


how do you know there were 52 of them?


the gang rapes is what gets me. i don't see a scenerio where someone reports a gang rape to someonbe and no one at all does anything about it. and it happens 4 more times.

i'm not taking sides, it just doesn't make sense.

i mean with penn state it wasn't a team raping boys it was onbe man. this is different. ;l there wasn't ONE football player that stood up against tnhe gang rapes?


i just want to see this one play out.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Typical Baylor running up the score with no defense
savage
Posted by BamaChick
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 12:24 pm to
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The big thing is why weren't these brought to the police at the time?


Because lots of these cases were reported to campus officials who then offered incentives and NDAs for these girls to not go to the police

And at this point I'm not going to be shocked to hear the girls were also "informed" of the bad things that would happen to them if they went to the police.

Add in the TWO Title IX investigators who resigned and are now suing Baylor who both claim they were impeded in their efforts to take cases to the Waco PD and their claims that the Waco PD was unresponsive to the complaints they did make, you have an environment that would be hostile to making official complaints.

Sounds to me like Baylor - and I'm accusing the whole school here, not just the football program - had a nice little racket going to keep these rapes on the down-low.

TL;DR - frick BAYLOR
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Because lots of these cases were reported to campus officials who then offered incentives and NDAs for these girls to not go to the police


This is a brand new allegation that has not been proven. It has come to light by an attorneys filing in a civil lawsuit, which have been shown not to be accurate. It was just a year ago that Baylor was rightfully crucified for taking away the academic scholarship for the student assaulted by Sam U once her grades fell below the requirements.

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Add in the TWO Title IX investigators who resigned and are now suing Baylor who both claim they were impeded in their efforts to take cases to the Waco PD and their claims that the Waco PD was unresponsive to the complaints they did make, you have an environment that would be hostile to making official complaints.


The two Title IX employees resigned because they felt Baylor was impeding in their ability to conduct fair investigations and that the school was scapegoating the football team for an institution problem.

"The view was that football was made to be a convenient scapegoat, and if football was thrown under the bus, they wouldn't have to deal with it anymore," Dunn said. "She's certainly not suggesting that there wasn't a problem with football or that it wasn't heinous that what was happening. But the thought that we could just fire a couple football people and clean up the football program and the problem was solved -- that's not right."

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This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:56 pm to
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She says that Chatman was accused of rape once before and the university failed to intervene. In that case, the suit says, a student athletic trainer reported that Chatman raped her at his off-campus apartment, so the university moved the trainer to a female sports team and agreed to pay for her education in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement.


Not trying to make light of the situation, but after paying on school loans for 8 years with no end in sight I'd take this deal.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 2:15 pm to
Crazy that Baylor is getting thrown under the bus....
Posted by PSG
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:07 pm to
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asked him, "Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:25 pm to
Haven't read much about this case(s) other than this thread. What are the chances we are looking at Duke Lax 2.0?
Posted by tokenBoiler
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 5:07 pm to
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Haven't read much about this case(s) other than this thread. What are the chances we are looking at Duke Lax 2.0?


None. We have had 2 players found guilty of sexual assault.

Tevin Elliot is a TPOS and deserves to rot in jail. Sam U is also a TPOS; however, he has a solid chance at winning his appeal for a new trial due to misconduct by the prosecutor when she misled the court and the jury on key evidence in his trial.

Additionally, this is a school wide issue. Not a football team specific issue. The former Title IX Coordinator resigned after saw the administration try and paint this as a football team problem and not an institutional problem.

Baylor, at an institutional level, did not provide adequate resources for the Title IX department to investigate claims of sexual assault. Thus causing students to be found not guilty by the Title IX department but guilty in the court of law. The resources have now been put in place by Baylor, better late than never.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted by yurintroubl
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 10:59 pm to
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BeYou


I'm just here to salute your continuing presence as Baylor's voice on this board on this subject. I know it can't be easy. You are one of two to have earned "The one guy I can't find a way to hate [sports-superficially]" status in my mind. Patrick Mahomes is the other FWIW.
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