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NBA MVP
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:32 pm
Will preface this by saying that I am no NBA expert. However, as a person who watches a lot of basketball and has played basketball for a good number of years, I am very intrigued by the MVP race this year, which we all know is basically between Westbrook and Harden (Kawhi is a close third, but stat stuffing has been glorified this year so I would be surprised if Kawhi won it).
Personally, if I had a vote, I would vote Harden. During the regular season, Westbrook had a lower FG percentage (.425 vs .444), a lower 3 point percentage (.343 vs .347), less assists (840 vs 907), a lower scoring efficiency (1.318 vs 1.537), a lower shooting efficiency (.476 vs .525), and though Harden has less points (2558 vs 2356), Westbrook took 408 MORE SHOTS than Harden (1941 vs 1533). Oh and the Rockets are up 2-0 in the playoff series due to Westbrook shooting them out of the game in the fourth quarter.
Discuss.
Personally, if I had a vote, I would vote Harden. During the regular season, Westbrook had a lower FG percentage (.425 vs .444), a lower 3 point percentage (.343 vs .347), less assists (840 vs 907), a lower scoring efficiency (1.318 vs 1.537), a lower shooting efficiency (.476 vs .525), and though Harden has less points (2558 vs 2356), Westbrook took 408 MORE SHOTS than Harden (1941 vs 1533). Oh and the Rockets are up 2-0 in the playoff series due to Westbrook shooting them out of the game in the fourth quarter.
Discuss.
This post was edited on 4/21/17 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:35 pm to RebelTheBear
Nothing to discuss here except for the fact that you're an idiot. That's all.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:38 pm to RebelTheBear
quote:
NBA MVP
26 pages
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:39 pm to RebelTheBear
You used stats. Man, those Russ fans are stats wizards. Like Magik cards online or something. They will throw stats right back at you.
Here is the bottom line. Head to head Rockets won more games against them. Harden was great in those games. Rockets are a better team: Harden is the major reason why. Rockets have a better organized offense than OKC: Harden is the major reason why (along with Dantoni putting him in that position). Harden has beaten all expectations at Point Guard running that offense this year by all accounts. Triple doubles I could give 3 fricks about.
Leonard though. Don't dare think he isn't worthy. He is a better defender than both and he is ruthless against the games best player named Lebron James. If I had to give an honest award I'd give it to Leonard as he is the best defender in basketball in my eyes and does more with less volume than just about anybody in the league. He is highly efficient.
Here is the bottom line. Head to head Rockets won more games against them. Harden was great in those games. Rockets are a better team: Harden is the major reason why. Rockets have a better organized offense than OKC: Harden is the major reason why (along with Dantoni putting him in that position). Harden has beaten all expectations at Point Guard running that offense this year by all accounts. Triple doubles I could give 3 fricks about.
Leonard though. Don't dare think he isn't worthy. He is a better defender than both and he is ruthless against the games best player named Lebron James. If I had to give an honest award I'd give it to Leonard as he is the best defender in basketball in my eyes and does more with less volume than just about anybody in the league. He is highly efficient.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:41 pm to RebelTheBear
If you pick Harden after honestly watching this Thunder team, you're stupid.
Houston wins 50+ games without Harden
OKC is competing for the #1 pick without Russ.
Houston wins 50+ games without Harden
OKC is competing for the #1 pick without Russ.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:44 pm to Woopigsooie20
I'm just here to point out the following stats.
After 2 playoff games:
Kawhi Leonard 20/28, 69 points
Russell Westbrook 23/66, 73 points
After 2 playoff games:
Kawhi Leonard 20/28, 69 points
Russell Westbrook 23/66, 73 points
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:49 pm to BeYou
Pop has a great system, one of the best.
Helps having 2 about 4 HOF players playing along side of you.
But this is moot, Russell will win the MVP as votes are already turned in.
Helps having 2 about 4 HOF players playing along side of you.
But this is moot, Russell will win the MVP as votes are already turned in.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:55 pm to BeYou
quote:
69
Nice
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:06 pm to RebelTheBear
well westbrook already won. So none of this matters
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:07 pm to RebelTheBear
I mean I agree.
Points are virtually a wash.. Westbrook #1 and Harden #2.. but Harden scored WAY more efficiently. (61.3% ts% for Harden compared to 55.4% for Westbrook).
Harden lead the league in assists.
Westbrook averaged 10 rebounds and Harden averaged 8. Who cares especially considering Westbrook's team purposely let him grab open rebounds by design.
And Harden had much more team success than Westbrook.
Points are virtually a wash.. Westbrook #1 and Harden #2.. but Harden scored WAY more efficiently. (61.3% ts% for Harden compared to 55.4% for Westbrook).
Harden lead the league in assists.
Westbrook averaged 10 rebounds and Harden averaged 8. Who cares especially considering Westbrook's team purposely let him grab open rebounds by design.
And Harden had much more team success than Westbrook.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:08 pm to Woopigsooie20
quote:That's a ridiculously stupid opinion.
Houston wins 50+ games without Harden
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:08 pm to RebelTheBear
quote:You are blind or didn't watch the game. They were up big until Westbrook took a one minute breather.
due to Westbrook shooting them out of the game in the fourth quarter.
quote:By all means let's cherry pick irrelevant stats with microscopic amounts of difference.
Westbrook had a lower FG percentage (.425 vs .444), a lower 3 point percentage (.343 vs .347), less assists (840 vs 907),
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:08 pm to reo45
quote:
Here is the bottom line. Head to head Rockets won more games against them
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:10 pm to reo45
quote:Kawhi for MVP
Here is the bottom line. Head to head Rockets won more games against them
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:11 pm to airfernando
quote:Up big? 12 points was the Thunder's largest lead all game
You are blind or didn't watch the game. They were up big until Westbrook took a one minute breather.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:11 pm to Woopigsooie20
quote:
Houston wins 50+ games without Harden
Are you being serious?
I have no issue with someone saying Harden had more to work with but you are crazy if you really think they would have won 50+ without him.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:12 pm to Woopigsooie20
quote:
Houston wins 50+ games without Harden
You're fricking loonie toons.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:13 pm to Woopigsooie20
Pass me what you're smoking
Harden brings the salt on MSB
Harden brings the salt on MSB
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:16 pm to rockiee
quote:True, but his point still stands.
Are you being serious?
HOU was the equivalent of a 50 win team with Harden off the court, but that doesn't mean they would win 50.
OKC was the equivalent of an 18 win team. That main premise still stands to illustrate the difference in the 2 supporting casts.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:18 pm to shel311
There's no question that the rockets without harden are much better than the thunder without Russ.
But 50 wins? No way in hell.
But 50 wins? No way in hell.
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