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re: Mayweather didn't lose the fight, but did he win it?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:21 am to STEVED00
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:21 am to STEVED00
quote:So Manny throwing less punches and landing wayyyyyy less punches should equal a win for Manny and boxing not sucking?
his is why boxing sucks. FM dancing around landing minimal damage punches at a higher rate equals victory.
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Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:21 am to STEVED00
quote:
Who landed more punches? Do people know how scoring works?
This. Boxing is a slow paced strategy game. Sure Mayweather landed more punches, but how many of those were little jabs to keep Pac at bay that did absolutely nothing?
Mayweather was taller and has a better reach. If it all about quantity of hits, he is going to win almost every time. Pac could never get in close enough to do anything because of shitty jabs from Mayweather that did nothing to him physically, but were meaningful on the scorecard.
edit: Not saying Manny won or should have won or even could have won. I just think the rules make for a boring sport.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 12:23 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:22 am to slackster
This scorecard said he did.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:22 am to slackster
quote:Wait, what? Judging who won a fight by who landed more punches and won more rounds is dumb?
More punches? More landed punches? More rounds?
Don't those seem like stupid ways to judge the winner of a fight?
quote:Manny "got his arse beat" more than Floyd did.
I'm sorry but I don't agree. How about the winner be the person who didn't get their arse beat?
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:23 am to GeauxWarTigers
quote:There wasn't a whole lot either way, but Floyd won in quality as well.
Mayweather was taller and has a better reach. If it all about quantity of hits, he is going to win almost every time
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:25 am to shel311
quote:
quote:
his is why boxing sucks. FM dancing around landing minimal damage punches at a higher rate equals victory.
So Manny throwing less punches and landing wayyyyyy less punches should equal a win for Manny and
boxing not sucking?
Manny walked out of the fight looking basically the same as he did when he walked in. He connected on a lot more big shots than FM did. I want to see 2 guys beat each other up and not score points by connecting on low dsmage jabs.
Eta: neither guy really looked beat up at the end of the fight.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 12:29 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:27 am to shel311
Mayweather had a few solid hits land, but I think the best hits were all Pacs. Neither one landed many big hits at all.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:28 am to STEVED00
quote:So did Floyd.
Manny walked out of the fight looking basically the same as he did when he walked in
quote:He didn't connect on many, so how can he connect on "a lot more?" Also, Floyd landed more power punches.
He connected on a lot more big shots than FM did
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:30 am to shel311
Manny landed way more. Mayweather ran around for 12
Rounds and got owned.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:30 am to shel311
C'mon you're better than that. Scoring a round 10-9 when Mayweather was completely hobbled is ludicrous, particularly if you're going to score the toss-up rounds in the 9th and 10th the same damn way. No judge is going to score a round 10-8 without a knockdown, so that is a huge flaw.
Additionally, landed punches can't be that important considering Floyd landed 21 to Manny's 14 in the 6th, yet every judge gave the 6th to Manny.
Additionally, landed punches can't be that important considering Floyd landed 21 to Manny's 14 in the 6th, yet every judge gave the 6th to Manny.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:30 am to GeauxWarTigers
Want to know what's really disgusting and embarrasing. Floyd averages 12 punches a round and Manny 6. And yet neither one of them ever got in trouble of TKO or KO and left looking like they walked into the ring.
That's not a fight or entertaining.
That's not a fight or entertaining.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:30 am to tzimme4
How the hell did anyone have Mayweather winning the 2nd round?
Don't get me wrong, he won the fight. But I don't see any way it wasn't 3-3 after 6 rounds.
Don't get me wrong, he won the fight. But I don't see any way it wasn't 3-3 after 6 rounds.
This post was edited on 5/3/15 at 12:32 am
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:31 am to The Dudes Rug
quote:81 to 63 in Floyd's favor, but ok.
Manny landed way more
quote:Mayweather threw more and landed way more punches.
Mayweather ran around for 12
Rounds and got owned.
You're saying things that are factually inaccurate.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:31 am to The Dudes Rug
quote:
Manny landed way more. Mayweather ran around for 12
Rounds and got owned.
Total Jabs landed:
Manny: 18
Floyd: 67
Total Power Punches landed:
Manny: 63
Floyd: 81
Total Punches Landed:
Manny: 81
Floyd: 148
Total Punches thrown:
Manny: 428
Floyd: 435
you were saying
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:31 am to shel311
I edited to add they both looked the same. I get it the rules favor FM's style. It is just boring. He knows he basically can't lose unless he goes on the aggressive bc he is so quick and has great reach.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:32 am to slackster
quote:Power punches are tracked and count just as much as total punches.
Additionally, landed punches can't be that important considering Floyd landed 21 to Manny's 14 in the 6th, yet every judge gave the 6th to Manny.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:33 am to STEVED00
quote:This I agree with.
I get it the rules favor FM's style. It is just boring. He knows he basically can't lose unless he goes on the aggressive bc he is so quick and has great reach.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:33 am to STEVED00
That is my point. I'm fine with Mayweather winning under the current system, but if this happened with your buddies in the backyard, both guys would be called pussies.
Floyd certainly didn't lose, but I have a hard time seeing Manny walk away unscathed and declaring him the loser of a fight.
Floyd certainly didn't lose, but I have a hard time seeing Manny walk away unscathed and declaring him the loser of a fight.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
Those are made up stats. Manny landed more and dominated.
Posted on 5/3/15 at 12:34 am to slackster
quote:
MMy biggest complaint is that the 4th and the 6th were better than any of Mayweather's rounds.
But there are 12 rounds.
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