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re: Matt Stafford Agrees to 5 year contract with Lions
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:31 am to shel311
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:31 am to shel311
quote:The options are let him walk or pay him.
Just because someone else will pay him does not make it a good argument for Detroit paying him.
quote:So what would you do?
He's been in the league for 8 seasons and hasn't won a playoff game, this strategy isn't exactly working out either through 8 years.
He's a 29yo top 10ish QB.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:33 am
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:32 am to CBandits82
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Lets overpay Stafford and hamstring our roster for the next 10 years and lay down at the bottom of the division.
That team made the playoffs last year and would have gone 2-14/3-13 without Stafford.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:34 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Made the playoffs.
Did make the playoffs, I was wrong in laying at the bottom of the division, at least for the 2016 season.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:34 am to CBandits82
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Stafford- 18/32 205 yards 0 touchdowns.
He wasn't healthy.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:35 am to brgfather129
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He wasn't healthy.
Ohhhh ok, got it.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:36 am to CBandits82
Compare his numbers before and after he dislocated his finger and report back. ThxIA.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:43 am to StrongBackWeakMind
People keep saying get a game manager at a cheap price and build around that.
Truth of the matter is, that's just not the reality. Look at the SB winning QBs in the past ten years. Only Russell Wilson and Flacco fit the bill, and even those don't grow on trees.
Well technically Peyton Manning fit the bill too, but that's not because he was cheap....
Truth of the matter is, that's just not the reality. Look at the SB winning QBs in the past ten years. Only Russell Wilson and Flacco fit the bill, and even those don't grow on trees.
Well technically Peyton Manning fit the bill too, but that's not because he was cheap....
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:45 am to castorinho
We're going to see just how well this strategy of not paying a competent QB works for the Redskins. They currently have Colt McCoy and 6th rounder Nate Sudfeld ready to take over.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:49 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:And you said one reason they should pay him is because someone else will. You can have many reasons you feel they should pay them. Whether another team will should not be one of them. Why would it?
The options are let him walk or pay him.
quote:I'd never make a QB I felt no confidence in leading my team to a title the highest paid QB in the league.
So what would you do?
He's a 29yo top 10ish QB.
I'd work to trade him.
And before you say, "well good luck finding a competent QB" I'll just remind you once more that Stafford has been around for 8 years and Detroit has not had success with him, so the Stafford strategy hasn't exactly led to success either. That's not the guy I want to be giving all the money.
I'm a big believer in getting value for any deal you make. This is not a good value IMO.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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We're going to see just how well this strategy of not paying a competent QB works for the Redskins
How much has Stafford worked out for the Lions?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:You keep saying this as if prolonging the inevitable with the current QBs is any better.
We're going to see just how well this strategy of not paying a competent QB works for the Redskins.
There's going to come a time when Cousins and Stafford will no longer be on the team and you'll probably go into rebuild mode, right?
I have no confidence whatsoever that either player can lead a team to a Super Bowl, so why would I prolong that by 5+ years?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:54 am to shel311
quote:Follow the trail back. Rouge said he would resign him, but not at that number. Hence my comment.
And you said one reason they should pay him is because someone else will. You can have many reasons you feel they should pay them. Whether another team will should not be one of them. Why would it?
quote:Trade him when he's a FA at the end of next year?
I'd never make a QB I felt no confidence in leading my team to a title the highest paid QB in the league.
I'd work to trade him.
quote:He's 29. He has potentially 10 years ahead of him. And he's stuck in a division with Aaron Rodgers, so getting to the playoffs is more difficult for the Lions than most.
And before you say, "well good luck finding a competent QB" I'll just remind you once more that Stafford has been around for 8 years and Detroit has not had success with him, so the Stafford strategy hasn't exactly led to success either. That's not the guy I want to be giving all the money.
quote:Me too, except when it comes to QB. The only options are pay him or let him walk. You seem to be in the let him walk and rebuild category.
I'm a big believer in getting value for any deal you make. This is not a good value IMO.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:55 am to CBandits82
quote:Three playoff seasons and he's only 29.
How much has Stafford worked out for the Lions?
You want to let a 29yo top 10ish QB walk and enter rebuild mode. That's crazy.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:56 am to StrongBackWeakMind
He was the Pro Bowl MVP in 2015 too right?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:56 am to shel311
quote:What is "the inevitable"?
You keep saying this as if prolonging the inevitable with the current QBs is any better.
quote:Yeah, plenty of years in the future. Walking away from a top 10ish QB with the hope of finding someone better in the draft is silly.
There's going to come a time when Cousins and Stafford will no longer be on the team and you'll probably go into rebuild mode, right?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:57 am to CBandits82
quote:Idk. Google it.
He was the Pro Bowl MVP in 2015 too right?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 10:58 am to shel311
Just to clear this up, you let him walk after 2018?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:00 am to Jcorye1
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He's a slightly better than average QB. Borderline top 10 type.
Top 10 is not average. I assume I'm missing your sarcasm here.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 11:01 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:Gotcha. I'd make him an offer, it would be lower, he would decline it. Then I'd work to trade him.
Follow the trail back. Rouge said he would resign him, but not at that number. Hence my comment.
quote:I'd trade him whenever the team feels he could fetch max value, whatever that may be.
Trade him when he's a FA at the end of next year?
quote:My thing is, he doesn't have to be as good or nearly as good as Rodgers...who is? But he has to be a guy that on the right day and with the right luck you feel can outplay Rodgers. I don't have that confidence in Stafford, not at all.
He's 29. He has potentially 10 years ahead of him. And he's stuck in a division with Aaron Rodgers, so getting to the playoffs is more difficult for the Lions than most.
quote:Yes. I feel like sticking with him with this deal actually makes it harder to compete going forward, and again, I don't have any confidence that he can lead my team to a title, so I don't want 5 more of what I'd consider wasted years.
You seem to be in the let him walk and rebuild category.
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