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LeBron's Finals Performance in historical context - Is it the GOAT?

Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:43 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:43 pm
As has been said many times since last night, LeBron leads both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks. He's averaging 30/11/8/2/2 for the Finals, something no one has ever done, but if you isolate any three categories, here is how he stacks up historically.

Per game averages in the Finals of at least...

30p/11r/8a
LeBron James 2016
LeBron James 2015

30p/11r/2s
LeBron James 2016

30p/11r/2b
LeBron James 2016
Shaquille O'Neal 2000
Shaquille O'Neal 2001
Shaquille O'Neal 2002
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1974
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 1980

30p/8a/2s
LeBron James 2016
Michael Jordan 1991

30p/8a/2b
LeBron James 2016

30p/2s/2b
LeBron James 2016

11r/8a/2s
LeBron James 2016
Magic Johnson 1980

11r/8a/2b
LeBron James 2016

11r/2s/2b
LeBron James 2016
Hakeem Olajuwon 1986

8a/2s/2b
LeBron James 2016



No player has averaged as high in 4 of the 5 categories, much less all 5. He is making an incredibly strong case for GOAT all-around performance in the Finals thus far.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7318 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:44 pm to
I'm confused
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32418 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:45 pm to
You know damn well it won't mean shite if he doesn't win game 7.

Unfortunate, but true.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30194 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:47 pm to
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You know damn well it won't mean shite if he doesn't win game 7.


To whom?

The only people who think it won't mean anything are people who hate LBJ "just because"

Win or lose, he deserves the MVP award and his performances from the last two games will be remembered as some of the greatest in NBA finals history.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 1:48 pm to
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You know damn well it won't mean shite if he doesn't win game 7. Unfortunate, but true


I know, which is why we need to relish it as much as possible just in case.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:19 pm to
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You know damn well it won't mean shite if he doesn't win game 7.



you know damn well all those warriors wins this season and currys mvp wont mean shite if he doesnt win game 7
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:20 pm to
Also true
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11345 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:24 pm to
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slackster


It's obvious you have a serious love crush on LeBron James. It's actually kind of sad!
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:28 pm to
Lebron is playing as good as any player I've seen in the finals, especially over the last 2 games. Is it the best ever, IDK but I can't imagine him doing more. Dude went on an 18-0 run by himself effortlessly.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

It's obvious you have a serious love crush on LeBron James. It's actually kind of sad!


I enjoy quality basketball.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127414 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:29 pm to
Stats don't lie Lee.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
12723 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

To whom?

The only people who think it won't mean anything are people who hate LBJ "just because"

Win or lose, he deserves the MVP award and his performances from the last two games will be remembered as some of the greatest in NBA finals history.


He may get Finals MVP, but it damn sure matters to his legacy if they win. It'd cap one of the best storylines in Finals history.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:36 pm to
Impressive
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
1617 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:45 pm to
Unfortunately, there is absolutely no chance in hell he wins game 7. Just another chapter and epilogue to the ongoing beliveland saga.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:48 pm to
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Unfortunately, there is absolutely no chance in hell he wins game 7. Just another chapter and epilogue to the ongoing beliveland saga.


I'm glad for you that you'll be able to double your savings account, as you'd have no reason to not bet your life savings on a game GS has no chance in hell of losing.

Congrats on your winnings!!!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84991 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:55 pm to
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Dude went on an 18-0 run by himself effortlessly.


It wasn't an 18-0 run, he just scored 18 straight.

Actually, at the 5:01 mark of the 3rd quarter the score was 72-57. By the 2:59 mark of the 4th quarter the score was 108-88. During that stretch, the Warriors scored 31 points and got it as close as 7 points. LeBron scored or assisted on 35 of the Cavaliers 36 points (Irving technical FT was the other point). He was 9/14 from the field, including 2/4 from 3. He was 5/6 on FTs, had 4 assists, 3 total rebounds (1 offensive), 2 blocks, and 1 steal.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah that's what I meant.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:03 pm to
Here is what Lebron has on the line in Game 7:

- a 3rd Finals MVP
- a 3rd NBA Championship
- winning a Championship for Cleveland after growing up in Akron
- winning a championship over the team who holds the all-time single season wins record and defeating the season league MVP (who was the only unanimous choice ever)
- He would also have the same number of NBA Championships and NBA Finals MVP awards as Jordan at age 31


That is a lot of pressure and a Game 7 win will still be incredibly difficult.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:09 pm to
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LeBron's Finals Performance in historical context - Is it the GOAT?
Yes.

And it isn't close. People have their nostalgic sacred cows, but a true fan of the game can't deny the greatness of LeBron James' 2016 NBA Finals performance.

quote:

You know damn well it won't mean shite if he doesn't win game 7.

Unfortunate, but true.
This is also true.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61688 posts
Posted on 6/17/16 at 3:14 pm to
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LeBron's Finals Performance in historical context - Is it the GOAT?


IT is. its really not even debatable.


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