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June Jones is the second best coach at resurrecting programs
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:20 pm
1. Took Hawaii from a winless team to a consistent 7-8 win team over a nine-year period, including a BCS game invite. Keep in mind this is with the shittiest facilities known to man.
2. Takes SMU, who hasn't been to a Bowl game in 25 years, to an 8-5 season with a very impressive performance against Nevada in the Hawaii Bowl. I'd be willing to bet SMU contends for the C-USA title most years for as long as June Jones is there.
Have to give credit where credit is due
2. Takes SMU, who hasn't been to a Bowl game in 25 years, to an 8-5 season with a very impressive performance against Nevada in the Hawaii Bowl. I'd be willing to bet SMU contends for the C-USA title most years for as long as June Jones is there.
Have to give credit where credit is due
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Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:22 pm to LSUtoOmaha
SMU could be a sleeping giant. Plenty of talent to go around in the Dallas metroplex alone
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:30 pm to usc6158
+1. June is a great recruiter, and his offense will be unstoppable in that type of conference.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:35 pm to usc6158
quote:They're awake now. They just went 8-5, and as long as they're in CUSA, ten wins will be par.
SMU could be a sleeping giant.
June Jones gets a lot of credit, but much credit goes to whoever is running the athletic department over there because they're finally taking football seriously. SMU/TCU next year could have BCS implications.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:36 pm to xiv
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They're awake now. They just went 8-5, and as long as they're in CUSA, ten wins will be par.
eh, they still lost to Washington State. That is and of itself makes them not back yet imo
Their freshman QB looks like he'll be great though
This post was edited on 12/25/09 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:36 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Who is the best then? Saban?
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:37 pm to TxTiger82
Yes, because he has done it in the toughest conference, twice.
This post was edited on 12/25/09 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:38 pm to usc6158
quote:And they only beat Stephen F. Austin by 8. But those two games were in September. I think they woke up during the season; they looked like a top 25 team last night; they're going to keep looking like that as long as they want.
eh, they still lost to Washington State. That is and of itself makes them not back yet imo
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:39 pm to xiv
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They're awake now.
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as long as they're in CUSA, ten wins will be par.
well then they are below par... And like he said, could be a sleeping giant
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:39 pm to LSUtoOmaha
What about Brian Kelly? Took Central Michigan to new heights, took Cincinnati to two BCS bowls. If he succeeds at ND, then he deserves mention.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:40 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Saban also walked into two of the premier jobs in college football that never should have been at the level they were at
To me, what Meyer did at BG, Utah, and then UF is more impressive
To me, what Meyer did at BG, Utah, and then UF is more impressive
This post was edited on 12/25/09 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:42 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Yes, because he has done it in the toughest conference, twice.
But he wasn't exactly taking over talent-less teams here. At LSU, he inherited players like Josh Reed and Rohan Davey. At Alabama, he inherited Andre Smith and Javier Arenas.
I don't think you can compare what June Jones is doing to what Saban has done. June Jones is literally rebuilding programs from the ground up.
Saban finds underachieving programs with tons of potential and helps them realize that potential.
Jones is a freakin miracle worker.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:45 pm to TxTiger82
I do agree though that what Jones with some of these schools is more impressive to a degree. Michigan St, LSU and Alabama are schools that shouldnt have needed rebuilding. Hawaii and SMU are very different stories.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:47 pm to TxTiger82
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eh, they still lost to Washington State. That is and of itself makes them not back yet imo
Look at where SMU has been the last 20 years. They may not be all the way back, but it will not be long.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:48 pm to usc6158
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Saban also walked into two of the premier jobs in college football that never should have been at the level they were at
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To me, what Meyer did
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UF is more impressive
Same could be said for where UF was
Posted on 12/25/09 at 3:49 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Oh yeah...
And it deserves mentioning that the single greatest architect of any program in history is clearly and obviously Howard Schnellenberger.
If he can build FAU into, say....another South Florida....
That would certainly cement his legacy.
And it deserves mentioning that the single greatest architect of any program in history is clearly and obviously Howard Schnellenberger.
If he can build FAU into, say....another South Florida....
That would certainly cement his legacy.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 5:17 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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1. Took Hawaii from a winless team to a consistent 7-8 win team over a nine-year period, including a BCS game invite. Keep in mind this is with the shittiest facilities known to man.
Are you kidding? They have outstanding facilities - Waikiki Beach, Maui in general, the Big Island surf, the list goes on and on. Gomer Pyle could recruit players to live in Hawaii for 4-5 years, who needs a fricking weight room when the surf's up?
That said, June Jones really is good at bringing programs back from the dead.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 5:30 pm to TxTiger82
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And it deserves mentioning that the single greatest architect of any program in history is clearly and obviously Howard Schnellenberger.
In the '60s Bear Bryant called the state of Florida the sleeping giant of college football.
This is not to denigrate what Schnellenberger did at Miami -- or Bowden at FSU. But they didn't just find lead and mystically transform it into gold.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 5:38 pm to Kafka
I thought Rich Rodriguez was first but I might be wrong.
Posted on 12/25/09 at 5:41 pm to xiv
Did SMU and TCU play this yeaR?
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