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re: J.R. Smith - last 2 games

Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:12 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:12 am to
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Someone said the Cavs need to open their wallet to get Lebron some help. I laughed because you can't get Lebron much more help. I also laugh because everytime Lebron loses people act like the players around him are dog shite

The only thing off is the "opening up the wallet" but the rest is spot on. If you want to beat this GS team, which is arguably the GOAT, LeBron needs more help. It's pretty simple. Also, it was pretty obvious, considering all of your replies and reiterating that point, that you were laughing at the thought of LeBron needing more help.

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I also laugh because everytime Lebron loses people act like the players around him are dog shite
Every time? You sure about that?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:14 am to
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I also laugh because everytime Lebron loses people act like the players around him are dogshit



Ya, nobody criticizes Lebron
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:14 am to
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Also, it was pretty obvious, considering all of your replies and reiterating that point, that you were laughing at the thought of LeBron needing more help.

Hey! At least you tried to see the underlying meaning in a post today! You're wrong but you at least tried unlike last night
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:15 am to
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Ya, nobody criticizes Lebron


Never said that. Never implied that.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:16 am to
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Someone said the Cavs need to open their wallet to get Lebron some help. I laughed because you can't get Lebron much more help. I also laugh because everytime Lebron loses people act like the players around him are dog shite
He has a decent enough team around him, except when playing arguably the greatest team of all time. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean he has a great team around him.

Last year in the playoffs the Cavs were +13.9 per 100 possessions with LeBron on the court and 21.1 points worse (-7.2) when he was off the court. This year they are +13.7 per 100 possessions with him on the court and 25.6 points were (-11.9) with him off the court.
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:17 am to
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Hey! At least you tried to see the underlying meaning in a post today! You're wrong but you at least tried unlike last night

Funny that every time there's a question mark in a post of mine, you avoid it like the plague.

My favorite part of this is that multiple posters have said they have no clue WTF you're talking about but you keep spouting off about how you're right...all the while you've never efficiently explained WTF you're talking about, so those multiple posters still don't know WTF you're talking about.

But it's EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!!

Troll so hard...
This post was edited on 6/5/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:19 am to
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Last year in the playoffs the Cavs were +13.9 per 100 possessions with LeBron on the court and 21.1 points worse (-7.2) when he was off the court. This year they are +13.7 per 100 possessions with him on the court and 25.6 points were (-11.9) with him off the court.

Cranking up the narrative?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:20 am to
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Never implied that.


It certainly can be implied whether that was your intent or not

The same people aren't arguing that Lebron played bad and he has shite teammates.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:22 am to
MJ's defense and complete game combined with his court leadership and determination to win would have made his teammates better and surpassed any gaps needed.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:26 am to
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Cranking up the narrative?
And since WarEagle25 is a Kobe fan, we really see how extreme this is since they began tracking during his second finals run (2001-2001).

So in Kobe's 6 finals the Lakers were +6.7 with him on the court and 9.7 points worse (-3.) with off the court. In the his 4 playoff runs that they won the championship, the Lakers were +8.55 with him on the court -0.and 8.93 points worse (-0.38) with him off the court.

So you can see how important players like Kobe and Lebron were to their teams, but how important their teammates are as well.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:27 am to
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Funny that every time there's a question mark in a post of mine, you avoid it like the plague.


It was obviously a sarcastic remark about last night was it not? You lost that argument too. I don't blame you on that one though because you were picking up an argument from another poster

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My favorite part of this is that multiple posters have said they have no clue WTF you're talking about but you keep spouting off about how you're right...all the while you've never efficiently explained WTF you're talking about, so those multiple posters still don't know WTF you're talking about.

What world are you living in? None of that is happening
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:27 am to
You just don't understand the point he was making!!!
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:28 am to
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What world are you living in? None of that is happening

See this thread, it happened.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:28 am to
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MJ's defense and complete game combined with his court leadership and determination to win would have made his teammates better and surpassed any gaps needed.

Yet somehow those teammates were a 55 win team when he was playing baseball, and that's with Pippen and Horace Grant (second best player) missing 10 and 13 games that season. Did MJ somehow make them better while he was gone?
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:29 am to
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He has a decent enough team around him, except when playing arguably the greatest team of all time. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean he has a great team around him.

You're really going to argue that a team with 3 all stars and one who has clearly been the best player in the league for pretty much a decade is not a great team?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:31 am to
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It certainly can be implied whether that was your intent or not


How?

There's clearly a group that defends Lebron no matter what (which is the people I was referring to) and a group that criticizes him no matter what (wasn't referring to them).

I never said everybody.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:33 am to
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See this thread, it happened.


And I still see nothing that you referenced
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:34 am to
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You're really going to argue that a team with 3 all stars and one who has clearly been the best player in the league for pretty much a decade is not a great team?

I didn't argue they weren't a great team including a Lebron, I said:
quote:

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean he has a great team around him.
The argument's parameters are about the players around him. You don't get to include him to bolster your argument.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:34 am to
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How?
I didn't see that one, but another poster to the list that can't figure out what your posts mean.

That thing you said that is not happening....it continues to happen.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110816 posts
Posted on 6/5/17 at 11:35 am to
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And I still see nothing that you referenced

See everyone replying to you, you literally can't miss it if you know how to read.

3 guys who have replied to you within the past hour, all either asking you to clarify what you're talking about or taking a post of yours to mean something else. You really don't see that?
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