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Is this a classic case of not knowing your place in the pecking order?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:03 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:03 am
Or did Kluwe know and just not care?
Chris Kluwe says he was let go by Vikings for speaking out in favor of gay marriage
So here is the opposite side of the Phil Robertson coin. Chris Kluwe claims he was effectively fired from the Minnesota Vikings for taking a stance in favor of gay marriage. Chris Kluwe should have realized that in the alpha-male world of professional football his opinion was likely to not be a popular one and that while he is free to express his opinions there is the potential that he could lose his job as a result. Chris Kluwe should realize that he is the punter and that punters are a dime a dozen. He isn't an all pro QB, WR, LB, etc. that can't easily be replaced. Phil Robertson spoke his mind but it just so happens that he held all the cards and couldn't be replaced.
Chris Kluwe says he was let go by Vikings for speaking out in favor of gay marriage
So here is the opposite side of the Phil Robertson coin. Chris Kluwe claims he was effectively fired from the Minnesota Vikings for taking a stance in favor of gay marriage. Chris Kluwe should have realized that in the alpha-male world of professional football his opinion was likely to not be a popular one and that while he is free to express his opinions there is the potential that he could lose his job as a result. Chris Kluwe should realize that he is the punter and that punters are a dime a dozen. He isn't an all pro QB, WR, LB, etc. that can't easily be replaced. Phil Robertson spoke his mind but it just so happens that he held all the cards and couldn't be replaced.
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:06 am to LSUnowhas2
If all this went down as he says it did, he should absolutely speak out about it
but this article really comes across as him whining, and this is coming from someone who really likes Kluwe despite his vikingness
but this article really comes across as him whining, and this is coming from someone who really likes Kluwe despite his vikingness
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:07 am to LSUnowhas2
The owner was fine with his voicing his opinion. The special teams coach wasn't.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:09 am to Sophandros
the NFL locks down player opinions for the most part
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:12 am to baytiger
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If all this went down as he says it did, he should absolutely speak out about it
I am not saying he shouldn't speak out about it. I am just saying he had to know or at least appreciate this was a likely outcome.
If say Drew Brees or Tom Brady came out with some political stance the team would suck it up and deal with it because they are that important to their respective teams but a punter? Never.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:12 am to LSUnowhas2
I think it's funny people still think that Phil held A&E hostage., or "was holding all the cards"
A&E would have been found and exploited the next blue collar working family and turned them into stars.
Reality television stars, even the the most popular one's have proven to be a passing fad and are also a dime a dozen.
A&E would have been found and exploited the next blue collar working family and turned them into stars.
Reality television stars, even the the most popular one's have proven to be a passing fad and are also a dime a dozen.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:18 am to Tactical1
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I think it's funny people still think that Phil held A&E hostage., or "was holding all the cards"
Because they are. The Robertson's were already independently wealthy and are on the most watched cable television show in the history of TV.
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A&E would have been found and exploited the next blue collar working family and turned them into stars.
Exploited?
The backfire for A&E was that the show became a show where people watching are largely laughing with them and not at them. This isn't honey boo boo. The Robertson's made sure that the show was done on their terms in the first place. quote:
Reality television stars, even the the most popular one's have proven to be a passing fad and are also a dime a dozen.
Passing fad or not, nobody has squeezed more coin out of their fifteen minutes of fame than the Robertson family.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:23 am to LSUnowhas2
The only people being exploited are the ignorant redneck fans of that show.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:28 am to Sophandros
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The only people being exploited are the ignorant redneck fans of that show.
If you are talking about the folks that buy every piece of merch with their faces plastered all over it I agree with you. If you are talking about the people that just watch the show, I couldn't disagree more. The show is entertaining and is so well received by its viewers in large part because it is a positive show that ends with a positive message. Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:29 am to LSUnowhas2
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The Robertson's made sure that the show was done on their terms in the first place.
You know the show is scripted reality right? There are stories and situations that are worked out before filming.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:30 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:33 am to Tactical1
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You know the show is scripted reality right? There are stories and situations that are worked out before filming.
Yes. That doesn't make it less entertaining. Do you watch movies and sitcoms? Those are also scripted and is not reality in any sense of the word.
But back to Chris Kluwe (Phil Robertson was only brought up in the initial post as a point of contrast), I do think that Kluwe thought he had a much stronger hand than he actually had.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:34 am to LSUnowhas2
He was on the DP show a few months ago......when his book came out, talking about this very same thing.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:36 am to BCMCubs
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He was on the DP show a few months ago......when his book came out, talking about this very same thing.
I would be interested to listen to that. Is this on youtube or does Dan Patrick have audio archives of his shows?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:37 am to LSUnowhas2
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If say Drew Brees or Tom Brady came out with some political stance the team would suck it up and deal with it because they are that important to their respective teams but a punter? Never.
hell drew flipped on his mom when she was trying to use him for her political campaign
the NFL does not have much boat rocking.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:37 am to LSUnowhas2
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But back to Chris Kluwe (Phil Robertson was only brought up in the initial post as a point of contrast), I do think that Kluwe thought he had a much stronger hand than he actually had.
I think this is just another lame attempt to keep up the Phil talk.
If Chris Kluwe really thought he had "a much stronger hand" he would have brought this up when it happened. Why wait nearly a year later.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:40 am to LSUnowhas2
Im sure there are archives on his website.
Im a little tired of hearing Kluwe talk about it. This doesn't seem like new information, just him bringing it up again by writing an article.
Im a little tired of hearing Kluwe talk about it. This doesn't seem like new information, just him bringing it up again by writing an article.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:41 am to Tactical1
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Reality television stars, even the the most popular one's have proven to be a passing fad and are also a dime a dozen.
I don't believe thats accurate.
There have been plenty of attempts to find the next "it" family/collection of people and there have been an awfully lot more failed attempts than successful ones.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:42 am to Tactical1
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I think this is just another lame attempt to keep up the Phil talk.
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If Chris Kluwe really thought he had "a much stronger hand" he would have brought this up when it happened. Why wait nearly a year later.
You obviously don't understand what I am saying. He thought he had a much stronger hand at the time which made him think he could say this without any repercussions. He gets let go by the Vikings but doesn't say anything because he is hoping to get picked up by another team. Now that he has realized that he has effectively become person non grata in the NFL he is speaking out and giving his version of the events that led to him being let go by the Vikings.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:43 am to LSUnowhas2
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If you are talking about the folks that buy every piece of merch with their faces plastered all over it I agree with you.
That's precisely who I'm talking about. Ditto with the people who actually bought into this "controversy" and gave the show more hype. The "suspension" while not filming is like suspending a baseball player for the month of February. It was all a publicity stunt.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:46 am to brass2mouth
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There have been plenty of attempts to find the next "it" family/collection of people and there have been an awfully lot more failed attempts than successful ones.
Of course, there are more misses than hits, but ultimately they will be found, it could be a underwater welding family from Port Fourchon, or some crime scene clean up family from Lansing Michigan. Eventually one of the formulas stick and create an fanbase that will last several years.
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He thought he had a much stronger hand at the time which made him think he could say this without any repercussions. He gets let go by the Vikings but doesn't say anything because he is hoping to get picked up by another team. Now that he has realized that he has effectively become person non grata in the NFL he is speaking out and giving his version of the events that led to him being let go by the Vikings.
You would have to know Kluwe to actually know this, and I am gonna bet the house that you don't.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 8:48 am
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