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Is Texas High School Football soft?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:06 pm
This thread is in response to many post that I have seen talking about the fact that Texas High School Football has really fallen off in recent years.
Apparently the concensus is that Texas High School Football is soft nowadays, and that is one of the reasons Texas Universities arent very good. i.e. Texas A&M and The University of Texas.
Thoughts?
Apparently the concensus is that Texas High School Football is soft nowadays, and that is one of the reasons Texas Universities arent very good. i.e. Texas A&M and The University of Texas.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 10:11 pm
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:10 pm to LakeViewLSU
Is the hypothesis that the high schools run crazy offenses and the players aren't prepared for the hitting and trench play of college football?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
That could be. To tell you the truth, I dont know enough about it, thus the question.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:17 pm to LakeViewLSU
Texas football isn't good because they don't lock down Texas talent.
Ohio State is raiding the 2nd, 4th and 5th best players this year and are in a dogfight for #3 with LSU.
Ohio State is raiding the 2nd, 4th and 5th best players this year and are in a dogfight for #3 with LSU.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:31 pm to LakeViewLSU
Most Texas high schools run spread offenses and 7 on 7 in the off season is a big deal starting in 9th grade the results of which turn out very good skill position players like QB's and WR's but lineman both O and D are soft for the most part as they are pass blocking a majority of the time and linebackers are trimmed down speed guys that can cover but are not physical enough to stop the run. I can't think of a single fbs program that counts on Texas high school recruits that I would consider to be a physical team. Of course there are a few exceptions but for the most part that's the issue, also the elite guys are going oos at a higher rate than ever given the issues at the in state schools.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:32 pm to TxWadingFool
quote:Bingo
Most Texas high schools run spread offenses and 7 on 7 in the off season is a big deal starting in 9th grade the results of which turn out very good skill position players like QB's and WR's but lineman both O and D are soft for the most part as they are pass blocking a majority of the time and linebackers are trimmed down speed guys that can cover but are not physical enough to stop the run. I can't think of a single fbs program that counts on Texas high school recruits that I would consider to be a physical team.
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:33 pm to LakeViewLSU
Yes
We ran a wishbone offense at my school but no one does that anymore
It's all spreads now
We ran a wishbone offense at my school but no one does that anymore
It's all spreads now
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:34 pm to TxWadingFool
quote:
Most Texas high schools run spread offenses and 7 on 7 in the off season is a big deal starting in 9th grade the results of which turn out very good skill position players like QB's and WR's but lineman both O and D are soft for the most part as they are pass blocking a majority of the time and linebackers are trimmed down speed guys that can cover but are not physical enough to stop the run.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:37 pm to LakeViewLSU
quote:
Is Texas High School Football soft?
Lake Travis would beat any team in the country and it probably wouldn't be close.
There is no state that does it like Texas.
I graduated in 2009 and was doing varsity workouts from the 06-08 seasons and most top programs were like ours.
Workout in the morning, workout/walkthrough in the period during the school day, then a workout/full practice after school.
Mandatory summer workouts, five days a week and mandatory 7 on 7 for skill players and lineman had Lineman Challenge, however, I'm not sure if lineman challenge still exists.
All players were also required to compete in powerlifting and track in something.
Every person I've met that went and played at a high school powerhouse said they had similar regiments and every one I know that played outside of Texas from playing in college said they had nothing like that schedule wise or number of workouts.
Texas football is certainly not soft and the commitment that the coaches and players put into it at the highest levels of competition is second to none.
Obviously it's different if it's a program that sucks, but school's like Allen, Lake Travis, Carthage, Celina - it's a culture that has been around for years.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:39 pm to goldennugget
quote:
We ran a wishbone offense at my school but no one does that anymore
We ran spread, I-formation, single back and wishbone.
quote:
It's all spreads now
Not true at all.
Look at teams like Liberty Hill or Albany.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:39 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Ohio State is raiding the 2nd, 4th and 5th best players this year and are in a dogfight for #3 with LSU.
Browning is going to be a stud.
Oddly enough, Kennedale never wins shite and they lost to a bunch of white boys from Wylie
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:40 pm to McCaigBro69
All those programs teach players to do the whoopty doo whirly bird offense. Not run a moths fricka over football
They let Mox run the show, and away from Kilmer style football
They let Mox run the show, and away from Kilmer style football
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:41 pm to LakeViewLSU
Yea, Jamal Adams is so soft 
They happen to live in a state where the majority of schools are Big 12 fun & gun, so it's not exactly their fault that they don't play smash mouth ball like LSU & Bama if they want to stay close to home
They happen to live in a state where the majority of schools are Big 12 fun & gun, so it's not exactly their fault that they don't play smash mouth ball like LSU & Bama if they want to stay close to home
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:41 pm to lsupride87
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All those programs teach players to do the whoopty doo whirly bird offense. Not run a moths fricka over football
Did you watch Carthage at all this year?
Five 4A state titles since 2008 and they run the shite out of the ball with a single back formation.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:42 pm to McCaigBro69
You do realize that every high school that is good at football do those same things. Texas football isn't special in what they do, they just have a frick ton more kids to chose from
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:43 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
Lake Travis would beat any team in the country and it probably wouldn't be close.
Teams like that aren't good because they have better players or because they are more physical
These teams are good partially because they recruit, and mainly because they execute their offense/defense to perfection. High School is all about execution, hence why the upper class white schools are the ones winning the titles for the most part. Because they have been doing it together since pee wee. By the time they get to high school they have been doing the same shite over and over again for 10 years. You can't beat that unless you have a really special team.
That's why Todd Dodge failed miserably at North Texas. His Southlake teams were a bunch of white kids who had been running the same offense since they were in pee wee and beat other teams(including the team I played on) very badly just because they ran that spread offense like a machine. But in college you can't get away with out executing other teams with a bunch of white kids with a spread offense since talent, ability and physicalness matters more. Out executing teams has to be done with a gimmick run offense like the triple option or what Bill Snyder does at K-State with delayed draws.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:47 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
Texas football is certainly not soft and the commitment that the coaches and players put into it at the highest levels of competition is second to none.
Meh. Texas just has unlimited resources. I'll take a group of kids from out in the cut in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, and Florida.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:48 pm to YeahYeah
quote:
You do realize that every high school that is good at football do those same things. Texas football isn't special in what they do, they just have a frick ton more kids to chose from
LOL.
California has a frick ton more kids than Texas does and an unranked Euless Trinity team beat the No. 1 team in the country De La Salle just last year.
So a team that got bounced in the first round of the playoffs in 2015 is apparently better than the supposed 'best team in the country'.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:48 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
Lake Travis would beat any team in the country and it probably wouldn't be close.
Wasn't Lake Travis 15-1 this year?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:51 pm to McCaigBro69
quote:
California has a frick ton more kids than Texas does and an unranked Euless Trinity team beat the No. 1 team in the country De La Salle just last year.
Euless Trinity is a rare exception in Texas
They were my school's main rival and has beaten my high school 19 straight times in what was once probably the most fierce rivalry in DFW.
Trinity is good not because they have better skill position players. Its because of American Airlines. The American Airlines luggage & transport employees are dominated by polynesians and tongans. Therefore they all live in Euless to work at DFW Airport. They have kids who are massive who all go to Trinity High School, therefore their offensive and defensive lines are giant year in year out. They can simply run the ball at will every game.
Exception to the rule.
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