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Is Kawhi Leonard the best all-around player in the NBA?

Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:39 pm
He is an elite defender
He is an elite finisher around the rim
He is an elite mid-range/3pt shooter
He has close to elite handles for a SF
He has elite basketball IQ (including passing)



IMO this is the equivalent to being a 5-tool player in baseball and Kawhi is the only player in the NBA (somewhat not named Lebron) that is at this level.

With that said, Lebron wishes he could shoot midrange/3pts like Kawhi and with that fact, Kawhi is the best 5-tool NBA player.

Thoughts?
Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:40 pm to
Yes
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:40 pm to
i mean sure. there are still around 5 guys id rather have though
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:41 pm to
You don't know it yet, but you just started a 6pg James harden thread
Posted by PianoTiger
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:41 pm to
No. LeBron still is. I would put Draymond up there with Leonard.
Posted by Rocco Lampone
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:42 pm to
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i mean sure. there are still around 5 guys id rather have though


Not me. I would pick him over anyone else.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:42 pm to
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You don't know it yet, but you just started a 6pg James harden thread
I assume this is a joke Lester.



edit: We still dont have sarcasm font and Ive had a few beers so be easy on me.


edit2: I re-read what you said... no need to comment.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:45 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:43 pm to
Yeah. Lebron stopped pretending to play defense 4 yeas ago and he can't shoot for shite

Inb4 harden voioplayermvproi rating
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:44 pm to
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i mean sure. there are still around 5 guys id rather have though
bullshite.


Well list them, please....
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:46 pm to
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I would pick him over anyone else.


For the next 7 years, sure, but gimme LeBron right now.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:47 pm to
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bullshite.

quote:

Well list them, please....

i would absolutely rather have steph, lebron, KD, westbrook, and AD right now
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:50 pm to
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Well list them, please....



I'd go for sure:

Steph
Bron
KD

But then I could see someone easily making a case to include him right after them. I'd probably have CP3 as 4. Feels weird that I would have 100% put AD in that top 5 before this past season.

I don't think he is a top 10 per se, but damn is it not hard to throw Draymond around that area because of everything he provides. Absolutely perfect piece for today's NBA.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

I would pick him over anyone else.


For the next 7 years, sure, but gimme LeBron right now.


Next 7 years? Give me KAT, you are all screwed.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:52 pm to
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i would absolutely rather have steph, lebron, KD, westbrook, and AD right now



Hard to argue with that but I rather kawhi than Westbrook

AD also gets the benefit of the doubt because he plays in a shithole
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:52 pm to
Is this thread necessary after every Spurs game?
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:52 pm to
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i would absolutely rather have steph, lebron, KD, westbrook, and AD right now
Steph--completely understandable. I would too

Lebron--completely fair..he is the most dominant player in the NBA

Durant--could be argued, but Kawhi is better all-around. Kawhi would do what Durant does on the thunder and he would also set up other players and play defense better imo.


Westbrook--nope



AD--as a religious Pels fan, no way in hell.




Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:54 pm to
I guess so
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Is this thread necessary after every Spurs game?
dude get fricked

is any thread ever made necessary?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:54 pm to
Westbrook? No, no no no.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/6/16 at 11:54 pm to
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Durant--could be argued, but Kawhi is better all-around. Kawhi would do what Durant does on the thunder and he would also set up other players and play defense better imo.



Are the Thunder better or worse if you swap KD and Kawhi? How about the Spurs? I feel like the Spurs are even better with KD and the Thunder drop off a bit. That is sort of my reasoning.
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