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Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:52 am to Nashty
I really don't get why people want to call him a WR/TE?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:52 am to JBeam
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why do you think this?
cause you cant defend him
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:55 am to JBeam
How is he not a WR/TE though? He lines up more as a WR than TE. That's how he is utilized. He's not your typical TE, or even close to it. He's a hybrid.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:55 am to Lester Earl
Did Calvin get hit by a bus?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:59 am to CocoLoco
Fair enough, I never got the "hybrid" vibe from his game. I definitely agree that he's the biggest mismatch at TE in the game.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:04 pm to JBeam
I'd still put Megatron as the best receiving threat in the league, it's hard not have him at #1. He's unbelievable.
But, jimmy Graham is not far off. He's not as fast, but he's bigger, stronger, and just as un -guardable. He is quicker than a lot of people realize, and actually leads the league in passes caught 10+ yards down the field. So he is much more than just a short route target.
When you can throw it to a guy in triple coverage and he'll still come down with the ball, there's really nothing that can stop it. That's Megatron and Graham.
But, jimmy Graham is not far off. He's not as fast, but he's bigger, stronger, and just as un -guardable. He is quicker than a lot of people realize, and actually leads the league in passes caught 10+ yards down the field. So he is much more than just a short route target.
When you can throw it to a guy in triple coverage and he'll still come down with the ball, there's really nothing that can stop it. That's Megatron and Graham.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:07 pm to CocoLoco
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But, jimmy Graham is not far off. He's not as fast, but he's bigger, stronger, and just as un -guardable.
I don't know about that..
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
Maybe it's just the against the Saints but I've never felt like Julio has been an elite WR vs. us and we've had a pretty mediocre to bad secondary since 2009.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:24 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Did Calvin get hit by a bus?
Apparently. This thread is ridiculous and that doesn't imply a knock on Graham at all.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:35 pm to NIH
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Maybe it's just the against the Saints but I've never felt like Julio has been an elite WR vs. us
enjoy it while it last, Julio is for real, and he will get his eventually.
Also, not sure if mentioned, but Tony Gonzalez needs to be in the conversation if we are talking about All-Time TEs. Graham doesn't have near as good of hands as Gonzalez.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:37 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Jimmy Graham is the best tight end, but it's close when Rob Gronk is healthy.
However, I'd take a couple of wide receivers over him, especially Calvin Johnson.
However, I'd take a couple of wide receivers over him, especially Calvin Johnson.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:59 pm to TTsTowel
still waiting on the vernon davis fans to show up to explain how vernon and his coaches choose not to let him dominate even though he totally could
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:59 pm to SabiDojo
1. Calvin Johnson
2. Julio Jones
3. Dez Bryant
4. Brandon Marshall
5. Jimmy Graham
If any of these guys would play for the present day Saints, I think this is about the order of "uncoverability" they would possess.
2. Julio Jones
3. Dez Bryant
4. Brandon Marshall
5. Jimmy Graham
If any of these guys would play for the present day Saints, I think this is about the order of "uncoverability" they would possess.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:22 pm to dnm3305
Put Graham on the Lions (without Calvin) and he gets doubled and tripled all day with a shitty QB throwing to him.
He's a huge mismatch, but you can't dismiss who he has throwing to him (Brees) or all the players around him that enable teams to not double him all the time, although he beasted that TD yesterday in like triple coverage
He's a huge mismatch, but you can't dismiss who he has throwing to him (Brees) or all the players around him that enable teams to not double him all the time, although he beasted that TD yesterday in like triple coverage
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:23 pm to dnm3305
I wouldn't put Julio in my Top 5 right now.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:27 pm to jimithing11
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with a shitty QB throwing to him
lolwut
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:28 pm to jimithing11
the lions have more weapons than the saints
Calvin
Reggie
Joique
Pettigrew
Broyles
Stafford
Calvin
Reggie
Joique
Pettigrew
Broyles
Stafford
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:31 pm to TTsTowel
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Jimmy Graham is the best tight end, but it's close when Rob Gronk is healthy
What?
When Rob Gronkowski is healthy, he is the best tight end in the game. He has better receiving stats, efficiency stats, and is probably the best blocking tight end in the game.
Jimmy is a fantastic threat, but a healthy Gronk is better.
Oh, and Calvin Johnson is head and shoulders the top receiving threat.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 1:41 pm to Lester Earl
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the lions have more weapons than the saints
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