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Importance Of Free Throw Attempts In Final Four

Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:54 am
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:54 am
Kentucky ranks 18th with 24.2 free throw attempts per game. It shot 10 free throws in its semifinal game.

Duke ranks 61st with 22.4 free throw attempts per game. It shot 37 free throws in its semifinal game.

Wisconsin ranks 210th with 19.4 free throw attempts per game. It shot 22 free throws in its semifinal game.

Michigan State ranks 264th with 18.3 free throw attempts per game. It shot 16 free throws in its semifinal game.

LINK The discrepancy between Kentucky's attempts in its semifinal game and its season average is unusually large. Is it odd that the team that shot the most free throws all year long shot the least by a significant margin in the Final Four?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:57 am to
I thought the reffing in the Kentucky / Wisconsin game was terrible. Really really bad.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:57 am
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:59 am to
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LINK The discrepancy between Kentucky's attempts in its semifinal game and its season average is unusually large. Is it odd that the team that shot the most free throws all year long shot the least by a significant margin in the Final Four?



It would be odd if they weren't playing Wisconsin, who only averages a total of like 12.5 fouls a game. That's 6 a half, meaning teams don't get into the bonus against them often, and it is very rare to be in the double bonus racking up freebies.
Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:01 am to
wisconsin does not foul much. That is their gameplan, to make you earn your points not get them easy at the line. They are a smart team and if stick to the plan, they will be holding up the trophy tonight.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:05 am to
I thought the Duke game really demonstrated an issue I have been saying for a while about Izzo ball. His team plays such gritty defense, but at some point in the tournament, a game gets called tight and his team is screwed. Duke was going to win that game, anyway, but there were points that MSU got some momentum that was ruined by ticky tack calls. An MSU board has been harping on a couple of the Dawson back-to-back fouls.

quote:

"I got to do a better job of coaching," Izzo said. "It's the way it's going to be called. I got to do a better job of recruiting because I'm just going to get guys that can drive. That's the way the game has changed."
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:39 am to
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The discrepancy between Kentucky's attempts in its semifinal game and its season average is unusually large. Is it odd that the team that shot the most free throws all year long shot the least by a significant margin in the Final Four?
Both teams were well below their season average until Wisconsin had 10 FTAs in the last minute of the game. In addition, Wisconsin's opponents shot very few FTAs throughout the season. So it's not really surprising. That being said, the officiating, both ways, was pretty poor.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:47 am to
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It would be odd if they weren't playing Wisconsin, who only averages a total of like 12.5 fouls a game. That's 6 a half, meaning teams don't get into the bonus against them often, and it is very rare to be in the double bonus racking up freebies.
I am aware of Wisconsin's style of play. However, the success of that style against Kentucky was off the charts compared to its success against Arizona and North Carolina. I have a hard time believing that Wisconsin could defend the players from Kentucky without fouling so much more successfully than they could the players from Arizona and North Carolina, especially given the few jump shot attempts by Kentucky compared to Arizona or North Carolina. I believe the referees had a greater say than Wisconsin's players.

Wisconsin outplayed Kentucky. They definitely outhustled Kentucky. Willie Cauley-Stein disappeared completely for Kentucky. Calipari did a horrible job of adapting Kentucky's offense to the way the refs were calling the game. So, I'm not trying to make excuses for Kentucky as much as I'm trying to point out the unusual refereeing of the game.

I believe the championship game will be called closer to normal, and I predict Duke will shoot more than twice as many free throws against Wisconsin as Kentucky did. The Wisconsin players will be called for fouls more in line with the games against Arizona and North Carolina than against Kentucky. The referees will not put their whistles away like they did in the Kentucky-Wisconsin game.

Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:02 pm to
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I believe the referees had a greater say than Wisconsin's players.
Both ways though. Until the last minute, when Wisconsin shot 10 free throws (at least 8 from Kentucky intentionally fouling), they were well below their average as well. So if the game was called tighter, they would have also shot more free throws.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:09 pm to
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So if the game was called tighter, they would have also shot more free throws.
Wouldn't Kentucky's depth, and Wisconsin's lesser depth, have come into play if the game was called tighter? Wisconsin didn't lose a single minute to a starter because of foul trouble.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:21 pm to
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Wouldn't Kentucky's depth, and Wisconsin's lesser depth, have come into play if the game was called tighter? Wisconsin didn't lose a single minute to a starter because of foul trouble.
Maybe, but Cal didn't seem to trust his bench against Wisconsin anyways. Regardless, Wisconsin was already above their season average in fouls and didn't have too many problems. If anything, the AZ game was the outlier as AZ shot free throws nearly every trip down for a long stretch. In fact, Wisconsin had 21 fouls that game; their next highest was 18. So it's not likely that a game would be that tightly called anyways.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:25 pm to
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I am aware of Wisconsin's style of play. However, the success of that style against Kentucky was off the charts compared to its success against Arizona and North Carolina. I have a hard time believing that Wisconsin could defend the players from Kentucky without fouling so much more successfully than they could the players from Arizona and North Carolina, especially given the few jump shot attempts by Kentucky compared to Arizona or North Carolina. I believe the referees had a greater say than Wisconsin's players.



Well you could say that the refs called the UNC/Zona games too tight. I did not see the UNC game because I was flying, but the Zona game was awful iMO because they were calling it way too tight.

I would argue that Zona and UNC have as athletic of guard play as Kentucky. Kentucky is dominant down low, but their guard play isn't out of this world good.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:34 pm to
Free throws were one of the deciding factors in the championship game. Duke shot 20 free throws to Wisconsin's 10, and Duke made 16 to Wisconsin's 6. Free throw attempts kept Duke in the game, and made free throws provided the margin of victory.

I thought the refs did Wisconsin no favors. Duke could have easily been called for more fouls. There were a couple of plays that looked like obvious offensive fouls by Duke that weren't called, including one that would have put Winslow on the bench with 4 fouls.
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