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If you want conference champs to be the be all end all, eliminate OOC games
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:59 pm
Eliminate OOC games, force conferences to have at least 14 members, and play 12 conference games a year.
This is a much more fair test.
Or better yet, have two divisions of 7 in each conference and play home and homes between those 7, best record goes to the title game.
This is a much more fair test.
Or better yet, have two divisions of 7 in each conference and play home and homes between those 7, best record goes to the title game.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:02 pm
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:01 pm to KosmoCramer
The best way to determine conference champs is round robin but the conferences are getting too big for that anymore
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:02 pm to SabiDojo
Not really. That gives teams an advantage that plays their tough games at home.
7 team divisions, home and home is the only fair way.
7 team divisions, home and home is the only fair way.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:03 pm to KosmoCramer
Nothing really new here, but Wetzel gets into the inherent flaws of CCGs and divisions. Conferences should be ten teams with round robins, although I guess that can lead to clusterfricks with tiebreakers. But, it's better than the current situation IMO. Iowa's regular season last year without OSU/UM/MSU was a joke
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:03 pm to KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:06 pm to KosmoCramer
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Not really. That gives teams an advantage that plays their tough games at home.
You're probably one of those that use the logic that a close loss on the road is pretty much a win
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Yeah. They at least lessened this with more conference games, but even then Wisconsin would be behind OSU and Michigan based on conference record and head to head, yet they are still in the game.
Iowa's regular season last year without OSU/UM/MSU was a joke
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:09 pm to KosmoCramer
There's no way that making conference champs auto-bids will ever be the best solution. Take this weekend for example, you could potentially have an unranked and 3 loss VT playing for a national title. It's stupid and it totally devalues the regular season which is one of the reasons that CFB so great to begin with.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:14 pm to Weagle25
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You're probably one of those that use the logic that a close loss on the road is pretty much a win
What?
It's certainly more fair to play a round robin, but the most fair would be a home and home similar to the NFL.
The NFL players a home and home, and each division plays the same teams from two other divisions. It's actually pretty darn fair if you look at it, but does give advantages to teams that play their toughest crossover divisional opponents at home.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:14 pm to Weagle25
quote:No, but home field advantage is not some imaginary concept, especially when it's not a round robin and schedules are unequal.
You're probably one of those that use the logic that a close loss on the road is pretty much a win
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:15 pm to KosmoCramer
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Not really. That gives teams an advantage that plays their tough games at home.
You can't possibly overcome that unless you play your opponent twice or on a neutral field.
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7 team divisions, home and home is the only fair way
This doesn't solve the problem you presented
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:17 pm to SabiDojo
Yea it does. 12 games, play everyone twice home and away.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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it totally devalues the regular season
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:18 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:The only way the autobid would be reasonable is if there is a ranking (preferably computer composite) that they must attain (e.g., top 10 or top 12).
There's no way that making conference champs auto-bids will ever be the best solution. Take this weekend for example, you could potentially have an unranked and 3 loss VT playing for a national title.
In this case, even if they won, VT and Florida would probably not deserve an autobid.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:19 pm to KosmoCramer
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It's certainly more fair to play a round robin, but the most fair would be a home and home similar to the NFL.
It's not realistic at all. Round robin is as fair as you get.
If you get the tough games on the road one year that means you get them at home the next
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:19 pm to KosmoCramer
Oh okay I read your post wrong I'm sorry.
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:19 pm to KosmoCramer
or just get rid of conferences
its not like winning them means much anymore
its not like winning them means much anymore
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:21 pm to Weagle25
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Weagle25
care to explain what's so funny about it? You don't see the issue with a 3 or 4 loss team lucking into a CCG win and getting an auto-bid for the national title playoffs, basically rendering those 4 other losses meaningless? How could you disagree with that?
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:24 pm to rocket31
really unsure why we attempt to regionalize a sport that only has 12 game season
its beyond backwards
its beyond backwards
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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care to explain what's so funny about it?
I mean it pretty much explains itself. Conference champion is determined by the regular season. Yet you think it makes the regular season irrelevant...
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You don't see the issue with a 3 or 4 loss team lucking into a CCG win and getting an auto-bid for the national title playoffs, basically rendering those 4 other losses meaningless?
First off all, how did they "luck" into a conference championship. It's solely determined by play on the field...
Second of all, how often do you see a 3 or 4 loss team actually beat one of these playoff teams in the conference championship. It's just pure chance the SEC team that is fighting for the playoffs lucks into a win every year. The only time it happens is when that conference is incredibly weak and in that case, either team that goes would get stomped in the first round anyways
If you don't win your conference, you have no business playing for a national title.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:33 pm
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