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If Cincinnati lost its championship game last year they were definitely out. This year tc

Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:14 am
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:14 am
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Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41329 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:16 am to
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Posted byMessageLG2BAMAIf Cincinnati lost its championship game last year they were definitely out. This year tc


Just ran out of gas didn’t you.
Posted by bayoucracka
Member since Sep 2015
6813 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 12:20 am to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33483 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 1:01 am to
Is this supposed to be another thread where a dumbass Bama fan tries to explain to us that 2 losses totalling 4 points = playoff bid?
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:13 am to
Here’s the problem at hand. USC lost, fair, so should they be eliminated because now they have 2 losses? I say yes, but now TCU lost also, so if you penalize USC for losing, you also need to penalize TCU for losing. In that note, do you reward Michigan, which destroyed Ohio State on their field and winning the B1G, now to play their most historic rival, in which they already beat. You can’t penalize Michigan for winning and reward TCU for losing at the same time. Your options are either Alabama or USC here, you make it fair, Georgia v. Alabama and Michigan v. Ohio State or Georgia v. USC and Michigan v. TCU. You either make 1. and 2. play their rival conference team or you make 1. and 2. play a “easy” win. You can’t make the argument to penalize USC for playing in a championship game, but then reward TCU for losing in their championship game.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 2:16 am
Posted by LSU Shreddin
Denver
Member since Feb 2009
1426 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:21 am to
USC and TCU are not created equal. USC got blown out and has two losses. TCU lost in OT to a Top 10 opponent for their first loss.

USC is not an option. Alabama is not an option. They both have two losses. TCU loss resume is better, as is their win resume.
Posted by SlickRickerz
Member since Oct 2018
2290 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:29 am to
Alabama is an option and should be. TCU and the big 12 have no business in the playoff, Oklahoma fielded much better teams than TCU and are 0-4. If your drop TCU to 4, it’s completely unfair that Michigan has to play their biggest rival, and if TCU stays at 3, then why the hell doesn’t USC stay at 4. You can’t reward one team losing but then penalize another for winning.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 2:49 am to
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Alabama is an option and should be. TCU and the big 12 have no business in the playoff, Oklahoma fielded much better teams than TCU and are 0-4. If your drop TCU to 4, it’s completely unfair that Mich

Don't forget when the new 12-team playoff starts there should be no conference championship.
Posted by WuShock
Metairie
Member since Aug 2018
1316 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 4:38 am to
Anyone arguing that Alabama should be in over TCU is saying that the games don’t matter. TCU has one OT loss to a Top 10 team. There are four P5 teams with zero or one loss. This shouldn’t even be a debate. The only debate should be the order the four teams are in.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
13250 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:32 am to
If Bama is an option then Penn State is also an option then. 2 losses on the year to the #2 and #5 in the CFP rankings and I think at the time of the losses Michigan was 5 and Ohio State was 2 in the polls.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 5:35 am to
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Here’s the problem at hand. USC lost, fair, so should they be eliminated because now they have 2 losses? I say yes, but now TCU lost also, so if you penalize USC for losing, you also need to penalize TCU for losing. In that note, do you reward Michigan, which destroyed Ohio State on their field and winning the B1G, now to play their most historic rival, in which they already beat. You can’t penalize Michigan for winning and reward TCU for losing at the same time. Your options are either Alabama or USC here, you make it fair, Georgia v. Alabama and Michigan v. Ohio State or Georgia v. USC and Michigan v. TCU. You either make 1. and 2. play their rival conference team or you make 1. and 2. play a “easy” win. You can’t make the argument to penalize USC for playing in a championship game, but then reward TCU for losing in their championship game.

You said all of this without considering one thing--USC not only lost to Utah for the second time this year, they lost by 23 points.

TCU lost in overtime to a team they had previously beaten, along with every other team in the Big 12.

So yes, you can and should treat each team individually. And you're looking at it wrong, anyway. You aren't "rewarding" TCU for losing; you are just simply saying that with their body of work, a 3 point OT loss does not hurt them as much as a 23 point loss hurts USC.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7812 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:03 am to
Entire body of work:

TCU 1 loss, best win vs. 10 Kansas State, worst loss vs. 10 Kansas State

Alabama 2 losses, best win vs. 20 Texas, worst loss vs. 14 LSU

If Alabama gets in, then the committee is admitting only TV ratings matter. At that point, let’s just have Georgia/Alabama/Michigan/Ohio State until the playoff expands.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 6:08 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:04 am to
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TCU 1 loss, best win vs. Texas,

Dude, they beat Kansas State earlier this year. This loss doesn't negate that.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7812 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:06 am to
Forgot about that. Spare the condescension … dude. Try time reading comprehension. I’m not arguing against TCU. I’m in TCU’s corner.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 6:09 am
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12950 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:23 am to
If Alabama is considered then look at Tennessee. Their resume is better than Alabama’s.

I don’t think either are deserving.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34617 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:34 am to
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Alabama is an option and should be

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Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:37 am to
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Forgot about that. Spare the condescension … dude.

I mean, it takes 10 seconds to read a schedule.

This isn't anywhere near as bad as the guy yesterday saying "at least TCU won their division"...lol!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37520 posts
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:23 am to
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Here’s the problem at hand. USC lost, fair, so should they be eliminated because now they have 2 losses?


Yes. They have 2 losses AND didn’t win their conference.

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say yes, but now TCU lost also, so if you penalize USC for losing, you also need to penalize TCU for losing


They are in the same tier as OSU, one loss non conference champion.

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In that note, do you reward Michigan, which destroyed Ohio State on their field and winning the B1G, now to play their most historic rival, in which they already beat. You can’t penalize Michigan for winning and reward TCU for losing at the same time.


UGA
Michigan
TCU
OSU

How is having to play UGA rewarding OSU and penalizing Michigan?

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Your options are either Alabama or USC here, you make it fair,


No. The option is TCU as they have more wins and fewer losses.
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