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re: i need a baseball expert for a sec regarding a balk

Posted on 10/4/11 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/4/11 at 8:49 pm to
I think this has been answered but just to make sure. The move you are talking about would always be a balk. If a runner is only on first the only place a rhp can go once he picks up his front leg is to the plate. A good little teaching point that I learned in high school is something our coach called a balk move to first. Right before you jump pick the runner, give a very slight bend to your front knee. Two man crews can almost never pick this up and if the timing is right it won't be called. Just don't use it every time you pick off, because eventually the other coach will have the umpires looking for it.
Posted by ball1428
Member since Jun 2005
129 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:01 pm to
I was just about to post about the balk move we were taught in college ball. Its a little different than the one you said. Runners are generally keying off the front foot, and in most cases the heel. Your son should work on a variation of his quickest move to first. The only difference is he quickly picks up his heel before making his move to first. It has to be in one swift motion with his move to first. Even college umpires never called this
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:15 pm to
the answer is no.... can't pick to 2nd unless a runner is there
Posted by Chaz95
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2007
19503 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

A good little teaching point that I learned in high school is something our coach called a balk move to first. Right before you jump pick the runner, give a very slight bend to your front knee.


that's a good move that he's been working on: quick jump-pivot. he was taught that he had to make a throw to first on this move, though, so it better be a good throw.

thanks, all.

btw, his 9U-AAA Tigers Team won first place in their most competitive tournament of the season featuring 16 of the strongest teams in the area this weekend here in Dallas

very proud of their efforts...sunday play started at 8am and finished at 10:30pm! that's a lot of baseball for 8-9 year olds. even turned a triple play when down by 6 in the first game of the day before my boy got his teammates started with a deep double to left in a 9-run comeback inning.

i didn't even mind that the cowboys blew the biggest lead in the history of the franchise

Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16834 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:13 pm to
The move is not a balk. If he is making a play on the runner it is not a balk. I am an umpire and had this same exact play happen to me and in which I initially called it a balk, but was later told I was wrong by my umpire in chief!
Posted by TexasTiger39
Member since Mar 2009
3671 posts
Posted on 10/4/11 at 10:21 pm to
Just when we thought we had a consensus
Posted by LSUTiger88
Member since Nov 2009
697 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:25 am to
It is definitely 100% a balk, once a right hander picks up his front foot with a runner only on first, he must go to the plate
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 12:36 am to
quote:

The move is not a balk. If he is making a play on the runner it is not a balk. I am an umpire and had this same exact play happen to me and in which I initially called it a balk, but was later told I was wrong by my umpire in chief!



Your boss is wrong, or you aren't getting a grasp on what he was asking. If it wasn't a balk no one would teach a slide step, because you could just inside move to second every time a runner took off from first.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 1:04 am to
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there were times in his games this weekend where he knew the steal was ON like a muther. our catcher was struggling making his throws, and he asked if he (RHP) could lift and spin clockwise, and charge the eager runner on the way to 2nd.



You guys couldn't get him with a pitchout?
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 10/5/11 at 7:38 am to
The only time a pitcher can lift his front foot up off the ground, and still go to first is a left handed pitcher. Once a RHP picks his foot up, it's to the plate or balk.
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