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re: How many years before Yankees run out

Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:59 am to
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 6:59 am to
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One of the most overrated sports plays of all time.


Well, he is one of the most overrated athletes of all time
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:12 am to
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One of the most overrated sports plays of all time.


I hate the Yankees but I actually disagree. They were up 1-0 late in the game, if he doesn't make that play the ball doesn't reach home in time and the tying run scores, and you can speculate on whether the Yankees go on to lose the game and series. You could argue that it's overrated from the standpoint of it being Derek jeter. If Carlos Guillen on the mariners makes that same play nobody probably remembers today, but the play itself was definitely not overrated.

If you want to talk about overrated plays, the play against Boston where he makes the catch on the run and take 5 more steps and swan dives into the crowd, that was/is an overrated play
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12300 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:36 am to
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Like Costas said...
Bob Costas is all about Bob Costas.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6366 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:39 am to
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I hate the Yankees but I actually disagree. They were up 1-0 late in the game, if he doesn't make that play the ball doesn't reach home in time and the tying run scores,


If Jeremy Giambi slides instead of going in standing up the tying run probably scores anyway. It's an extremely overrated play, and he's made countless better ones.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13556 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:05 am to
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One of the most overrated sports plays of all time.


I agree. People assume that the ball wasnt going to get there in time. If anything, Jeter stopping the ball then flipping slowed the progress up greatly. And the trajectory was right on to begin with.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16977 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:25 am to
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1 Billy Martin
2 Derke Jeter
3 Babe Ruth
4 Lou Gehrig
5 Joe DiMaggio
6 Joe Torre
7 Mickey Mantle
8 Bill Dickey/Yogi Berra
9 Roger Maris


Roger Maris had one of the greatest seasons in baseball history in 1961.

But he only played 7 season for the Yankees.

I know he had cancer and died at a relatively young age (in his 50's), and I know there had been bad blood between him and the Yankees for a long time after he went to the Cardinals, and there was a huge "reconciliation" deal before his death, but does anyone else agree that his name sorta stands out on this list as a sore thumb?

He only had over 30 home runs 3 times. Is this deserving of a permanent retired jersey number?
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1119 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:57 am to
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I agree. People assume that the ball wasnt going to get there in time. If anything, Jeter stopping the ball then flipping slowed the progress up greatly. And the trajectory was right on to begin with.


The assumption here is all on you, Jeter did in fact make the play for an out, you are assuming the ball doesn't take a weird bounce, die in the dirt or that Jorge can scoop a bouncing ball and make the tag.

The play was huge within the context of an elimination game, it gets the attention because it was Jeter and its a quick 10 second clip. The attention spans of the public, especially when it comes to 3 hr baseball games, puts a huge premium on clips that like - from commercials to SportsCenter. Mussina won that game pitching lights out but that's boring compared to a fast action clip.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:08 am to
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Jeter is a slightly above average player, lets retire his number!


:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Lifetime .309 hitter that is sixth in all time hits? That's slightly above average? All while playing shortstop for the Yankees? He has hit .308 in the post season. He has a 97 + percent fielding average.

This season hasn't been great, but he has been a great player by any standard, especially given the pressure of his position and team.

Simply put, you're just a Yankee hater because your post is a complete joke.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166142 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:08 am to
2.3

Decimals
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19871 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:15 am to
espn had a stat yesterday that jeter has the 5th highest WAR ever

that being said, Jermey Giambi was safe
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94914 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:17 am to
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Even if Jeter was a Royal, then he was still a Hall of Famer
Agreed. But he would be viewed as Biggio. Close to first ballot but may have to wait to second year to get it

ETA: Change my mind, he would be viewed as better then Biggio and most likely be first ballot. But it wouldnt be anything like he is now
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:19 am
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42392 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:18 am to
After the season long farewells for Rivera and Jeter maybe the Yankees can take a break. Enough is enough.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12398 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:20 am to
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1-10 are all gone now


It really is impressive, honestly. Of all the single digit number players the Yankees have had, only Martin and Maris are the non-icons. Numbers 2 through 8 are pretty ridiculous:

2 - Jeter
3 - Ruth
4 - Gehrig
5 - DiMaggio
7 - Mantle
8 - Dickey and Berra

All are or will be Hall of Famers.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:20 am to
Nah, he would be first ballot. 3400+ hits at SS along with 260 bombs is first ballot. It was a fluke Biggio did not get first ballot. No need to subject hypothetical KC Jeter to that as well.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:20 am to
Nah, he would be first ballot. 3400+ hits at SS along with 260 bombs is first ballot. It was a fluke Biggio did not get first ballot. No need to subject hypothetical KC Jeter to that as well.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:21 am to
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After the season long farewells for Rivera and Jeter maybe the Yankees can take a break. Enough is enough.


As a pretty big Yankees fan -- AGREED!!!!

Jeter and Mo did it the right way. No scandals and conducted themselves with class (obviously many people in this thread don't appreciate that and I suppose that is part of the erosion of our society), but enough is enough. Hopefully next year we can start playing some baseball and stop living in the recent past of Jeter and Mo.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12398 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:26 am to
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I know he had cancer and died at a relatively young age (in his 50's), and I know there had been bad blood between him and the Yankees for a long time after he went to the Cardinals, and there was a huge "reconciliation" deal before his death, but does anyone else agree that his name sorta stands out on this list as a sore thumb?


I'm a Yankees fan and I agree, not sure Maris deserves a retired number.

I don't think Reggie Jackson's number should be retired, but that's a different subject for a different time.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 10:29 am
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:54 am to
Agree that if Jeter was a Royal that he would be a hall of famer still. The difference though is that as a Yankee he will be first ballot probably.

Proof of this is the fact that Biggio is still not in the Hall after two tries.

Jeter was really clutch over his 20 years and there was no one better than him in the playoffs. that is what is going to make him a first ballot guy. if he was playing for a small market team like the royals, he wouldn't have near as many playoff appearances.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 11:58 am
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6402 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:15 pm to
I'm shocked at some of the comments about Roger Maris. The guy was a legend and no doubt deserves his number staying retired. One could argue that his record 61 home run season would still be standing if the steroid era didn't happen.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127387 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:19 pm to
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sorry that your team doesn't have alot of history
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