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How Good Would Hawaii Football Be If It Kept Polynesians Off The Mainland?
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:11 pm
A few years ago, CBS' 60 Minutes did a story on football in the American Samoa, which produces more football players per capita than any other place in America. In light of Marcus Mariota's Heisman triumph, I began wondering how much blue chip talent Hawaii and the American Samoa loses to colleges on the mainland every year. If the University of Hawaii had it's own sugar daddy (eg. Phil Knight) that was able to do the things necessary to persuade all these Polynesian kids to stay home, would Hawaii become a major football power capable of competing for national championships?
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:15 pm to trackfan
Key word is per capita.
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:18 pm to trackfan
Naw. But if the Polynesians who live/grow-up on the mainland were to play exclusively for Hawaii, then maybe.
Ie: Guys like Troy Polamalu, Haloti Ngata, etc
Ie: Guys like Troy Polamalu, Haloti Ngata, etc
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:23 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I still don't understand why SEC teams haven't pulled Samoan guys on their rosters. Is it mostly gonna be a west coast thing forever?
Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:25 pm to Paul Allen
quote:
Is it mostly gonna be a west coast thing forever?
Because of geography, the answer is yes.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:50 am to trackfan
Here's an interesting story:
LINK
It seems kind of late for the inaugural edition of this award. Shouldn't it have come 20-30 years ago when Polynesian football players were still on the margins?
quote:
Heisman Trophy finalist Marcus Mariota has been named the inaugural recipient of the Polynesian College Football Player of the Year Award.
The announcement was made Tuesday in Honolulu by Polynesian College Football Hall of Fame co-founders Jesse Sapolu and Ma'a Tanuvasa.
Mariota is a 6-foot 5, 220-pound quarterback for the University of Oregon Ducks. He was born in Honolulu and is of Samoan descent.
Mariota is considered the clear front-runner to win the 80th Heisman on Saturday night in New York. He would become the first Oregon player to earn college football's most famous player of the year trophy.
"Marcus has orchestrated one of the most prolific offenses in college football this season," Sapolu said in a statement. "He truly represents the very best of our Polynesian culture."
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It seems kind of late for the inaugural edition of this award. Shouldn't it have come 20-30 years ago when Polynesian football players were still on the margins?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:55 am to trackfan
The thing with Samoans is even though they are big, they aren't fast and athletic like the lineman from the South (i'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole).
A lot of their football players end up at smaller schools, they certainly aren't dominating any SEC lines.
A lot of their football players end up at smaller schools, they certainly aren't dominating any SEC lines.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 8:56 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:01 am to Boomtown
So you don't consider Junior Seau and Troy Polamalu to be athletic?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:05 am to Wrestler171
quote:
Key word is per capita.
This.
Not sure adding 1 or 2 superstar Samoans a year would elevate their program. There aren't many Samoans, which is why their per capita is so high.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:06 am to trackfan
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So you don't consider Junior Seau and Troy Polamalu to be athletic?
He did say linemen, but his point is still dumb.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:07 am to Boomtown
quote:How do you not touch it with a ten foot pole when you're the one that brings it up?
The thing with Samoans is even though they are big, they aren't fast and athletic like the lineman from the South (i'm not touching that one with a ten foot pole).
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:10 am to Paul Allen
quote:
I still don't understand why SEC teams haven't pulled Samoan guys on their rosters. Is it mostly gonna be a west coast thing forever?
Euless Trinity has a bunch every year in Texas, and they're one of the top high school programs there is
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:15 am to TheCaterpillar
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Not sure adding 1 or 2 superstar Samoans a year would elevate their program. There aren't many Samoans, which is why their per capita is so high.
But I'm not talking only about Samoans, I'm talking Polynesians, Samoans AND Hawaiians. Just look at all the Polynesian football players in the NFL.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:10 am to trackfan
How many good Polynesians or whatever in the NFL?
I doubt it's more than 10. 10 good players over a decade of football wont change much
I doubt it's more than 10. 10 good players over a decade of football wont change much
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:14 am to Dr. Shultz
A quick google search says 30 Samoans currently in the NFL.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:29 am to chalmetteowl
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Euless Trinity has a bunch every year in Texas, and they're one of the top high school programs there is
Yeah but they are fricking recruiting those people FROM Hawaii lol. Pieces of shite. Texas HS football is great, but its a sad state of human morals and values. Many people need a reality check involved in that shite.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:34 am to tiggerthetooth
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Yeah but they are fricking recruiting those people FROM Hawaii lol. Pieces of shite. Texas HS football is great, but its a sad state of human morals and values. Many people need a reality check involved in that shite.
Meh. Recruiting happens everywhere. Only difference is they actually have the means to do it on a larger scale.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:35 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Can you explain?
its a sad state of human morals and values
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:39 am to jennyjones
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Only difference is they actually have the means to do it on a larger scale.
And thats a huge fricking difference lol. Hawaii? As if Texas lacks those players? Euless would still be good, but thats just the sad greed of Texas HS football. Just a disease the lows they'll go to play against a bunch of minors.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:50 am to tiggerthetooth
Riiiiight a Texas school is the only one to recruit out of state players for HS.
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