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Hockey experts... Pitt vs Wash end of game hypothetical
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:22 pm
I watch my fair share, but I'm by no means an expert.
Would Washington have been better off to have just let the Pens score immediately on the power play, in order to clear the power play and get back to their own man advantage and just try to score twice?
Seems like saving the time could have helped them.
Would Washington have been better off to have just let the Pens score immediately on the power play, in order to clear the power play and get back to their own man advantage and just try to score twice?
Seems like saving the time could have helped them.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:28 pm to cubsfan5150
Fleury is basically a wall this series so not sure it would've mattered.
But yea, it wouldn't be an unreasonable strategy considering that the pens scored 2 goals with a man advantage just the game prior sub 3 mins.
But yea, it wouldn't be an unreasonable strategy considering that the pens scored 2 goals with a man advantage just the game prior sub 3 mins.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:28 pm to cubsfan5150
No. The top PP percentages are in the 20-25%. You don't give up a goal on those odds. the players would never go for it either
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:30 pm to cubsfan5150
No. Scoring one goal in the last 2 minutes is tough enough. Score two goals in the last 2 minutes is even worse, regardless if you are shorthanded or have the man advantage.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:34 pm to WreckinRams05
So by percentages, I suppose that you have a better chance of scoring one goal at even strength (minus the goalie) in one minute, than you do scoring two with a man advantage (again, minus the goalie) in two minutes.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 10:52 pm to SirWinston
Correct me if I'm but I do believe the Caps were good at "shorties" this year.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 11:00 pm to cubsfan5150
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So by percentages, I suppose that you have a better chance of scoring one goal at even strength (minus the goalie) in one minute, than you do scoring two with a man advantage (again, minus the goalie) in two minutes.
It's not just the man advantage, 6-5 is a lot easier to defend than 5-4, and 5-4 is easier to defend than 4-3.
Lots more open ice with less guys out there.
It would be asinine to just let them score.
Might as well just barely it out even strength with the goalie pulled and go all out, and if they score an empty net, they score an empty net.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:40 am to cubsfan5150
Technically the Pens should have never been on the PP.
It was a bogus high sticking call, that basically killed the game.
It was a bogus high sticking call, that basically killed the game.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 8:53 am to StraightCashHomey21
I've never heard of giving g up a goal intentionally. Goals are too hard to come by to allow that.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:04 am to SoDakHawk
You've probably never heard of pitchers batting 8th until semi-recently too.
My thinking was, you need time just as much as you need a goal. With the Pens going on the power play, unless you win the face-off, you likely aren't getting the puck back, in your possession to where you can pull your goalie, for at least 45 seconds or so. That leaves you around a minute to score, at even strength.
If you just let them score immediately, then you have nearly two minutes to score twice with a man advantage. It's unlikely, but so is scoring when you're basically short-handed.
My thinking was, you need time just as much as you need a goal. With the Pens going on the power play, unless you win the face-off, you likely aren't getting the puck back, in your possession to where you can pull your goalie, for at least 45 seconds or so. That leaves you around a minute to score, at even strength.
If you just let them score immediately, then you have nearly two minutes to score twice with a man advantage. It's unlikely, but so is scoring when you're basically short-handed.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:08 am to cubsfan5150
Short handed goals are not that crazy though. Gain possession, forwards get a jump into the neutral zone, chuck the puck down and make it a foot race. Much more probable than scoring two.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:15 am to SoDakHawk
Youd be better off just pulling the goalie even if the faceoff is in your zone and just let it play out.
If you give up a goal, so be it.
If you give up a goal, so be it.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:23 am to cubsfan5150
Games aren't high scoring enough for it to be worth it. Pull the goalie as soon as you cross mid-ice, and take your chances.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:46 am to KosmoCramer
I suppose that's what I meant. Not necessarily let them score, but pull the goalie immediately, if they score, oh well, if they don't, you're immediately even strength in your offensive zone.
The point was to save as much time as possible.
The point was to save as much time as possible.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 9:53 am to cubsfan5150
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I suppose that's what I meant. Not necessarily let them score, but pull the goalie immediately, if they score, oh well, if they don't, you're immediately even strength in your offensive zone.
The point was to save as much time as possible.
...that's what they did?...
Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:11 am to SprintFun
No, they pulled him after finally getting possession in their offensive zone, not immediately after the PP began.
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