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Here’s what I don’t understand about the CFP selection that I’m not seeing discussed much

Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:39 am
If Alabama doesn’t convert an absolute miracle hailmary in the Iron Bowl, they have 2 losses and they aren’t in. Auburn was a pretty bad football team this year. Why does that game not work against them? They lost that game but for a gift from the gods, hailmary plays are awesome but they’re complete and utter luck.

Yet the committee says FSU doesn’t deserve it because they beat everyone they played but their best player is hurt. Bama essentially lost to a horrible Auburn team WITH its best player but that’s not counted against them.

I know I know “they won the game”, if this were an actual playoff I’d agree with you W/L is what matters. However in this case the committee straight up admits winning and losing isn’t what necessarily matters but rather how you look doing it. How does FSU not look better than Bama winning games by 10+ while Bama is relying on all time luck to beat a shitty Auburn team?
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:42 am to
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Yet the committee says FSU doesn’t deserve it because they beat everyone they played but their best player is hurt.


CFP and ESPN overplayed the Travis hand. If you take a look at the resumes. It's not even close.


ETA: Honestly, a handful of games for a lot of teams come down to a few plays. Why does it matter a win is a win.

Bama played Texas in the third game of the season. They had multiple TDs called back due to penalties. Milroe through three INTs. Two penalties cost the game.
This post was edited on 12/16/23 at 9:45 am
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:44 am to
Don't forget Bama's awesome performance against USF. FSU went undefeated and whooped a top 15 team in the conference title game with a third-string QB. Only Bama fans can't see why the decision was so terrible
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:44 am to
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CFP and ESPN overplayed the Travis hand. If you take a look at the resumes. It's not even close.


Florida State is undefeated. Alabama isn't. The discussion is over right there.
Posted by BobABooey
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:44 am to
It’s all about the A test. I mean the eye test.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25499 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:45 am to
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Bama essentially lost to a horrible Auburn team


Not how it works.

Bama is the better team. Therefore, they’re in the playoffs.

Enjoy watching!
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:48 am to
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Florida State is undefeated. Alabama isn't. The discussion is over right there.


Well shite. Put Liberty in then. They are 13-0.

Why would you put FSU in over Liberty?
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
548 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:49 am to
Bama isn’t the enemy here, they are ranked 4th and that makes sense, it’s Texas. We shouldn’t be debating FSU and Bama, but Texas and FSU, sure Texas beat Bama, but what else have they done? It should be
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. FSU
4. Bama
Bama beat the Heisman winner, #1 Georgia whose x2 defending champs, and ran the SEC. Texas beat Bama early and struggled against OU.
This post was edited on 12/16/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72540 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:49 am to
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Well shite. Put Liberty in then. They are 13-0.

Why would you put FSU in over Liberty?


Imagine being stupid enough to compare Florida State and Liberty.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:51 am to
Cuz it's Bama. They get whatever they want. That simple.

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:53 am to
and Alabama was playing with their starting QB.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:54 am to
Because it's Nick Saban's Alabama team. Period.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:54 am to
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Imagine being stupid enough to compare Florida State and Liberty.


Would you put Bama in over Liberty? I mean they are undefeated.

You probably wouldn't put Liberty in over Bama for a number of reasons...

- Roster isn't as good
- Schedule/Competition isn't as good

"Cuz they are undefeated" doesn't make a lot of sense when...

- Bama has the better roster.
- Bama has better wins.
- Bama played a much harder schedule.

Not Bama's fault that the ACC wasn't that strong this year.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 9:57 am to
You're surprised Alabama is given special treatment? New to college football?
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:00 am to
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Bama played Texas in the third game of the season. They had multiple TDs called back due to penalties. Milroe through three INTs. Two penalties cost the game.


I finally understand. Alabama won the game!
Interceptions and penalties don’t count.

Hail Mary passes against a brain dead coach and DC do count though.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3921 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:00 am to

Auburn fans came out of that miserable Iron Bowl loss thinking that if there was one small silver lining it is that Alabama is OUT of the playoffs no matter what based on that game. The emperor had no clothes.

Alas, we underestimated the corruption and greed.

Our new, smaller silver lining is that UGA and FSU (two teams we despise albeit it less than Bama) got screwed out of the playoff.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14338 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:04 am to
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If Alabama doesn’t convert an absolute miracle hailmary in the Iron Bowl, they have 2 losses and they aren’t in. Auburn was a pretty bad football team this year. Why does that game not work against them?


And you think this is a new thought? And just so you know, when is a loss a loss? When you are on the short end and there are zeros on the clock.

Florida State 31 Boston College 29. What the hell was that all about?

FSU 31 Clemson 24 (OT) That's 4 loss Clemson.

FSU 27 Miami 20 at Doak Campbell That's 5 loss Miami. Why it's almost like rival games are the hardest.

FSU 24 Florida 15 That's 5-7 Florida. Another rival game, another close game.

A dominant FSU team in the great ACC? More Rant mythology.
This post was edited on 12/16/23 at 10:05 am
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:04 am to
It was never going to matter. ESPN wanted Bama in and found a way to force it. They weren’t going to screw up UT as it is too big of a market and so screwed over FSU.

It’s pathetic and Bama fans will be the main ones claiming things, but Bama absolutely did. It deserve to be in there over FSU or UT.

It was a scam by ESPN to control their bottom line and is exactly why the playoff idea tied to a network was utterly pathetic and nothing more than a money grab.

In the end, the best thing that can happen is Michigan destroys Bama and embarrasses the committee for claiming it was to make the 4 best. Bama was not one of the 4 best teams. Barely beating Auburn on a miracle play, beating a 4 win Arky team at home by 3 and scraping by a bad A&M team as well as mediocre USF showed that.

They needed some shady stuff to beat a bad UTk team too.

Hopefully for once karma will hit Bama, but they never should have been in this position.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24350 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:05 am to
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I finally understand. Alabama won the game!
Interceptions and penalties don’t count.

Hail Mary passes against a brain dead coach and DC do count though.


The original post was about how Bama needed a single play to beat a team. Multiple teams have games that come down to a single or handful of plays. That's football. My point is that you can make the argument that Texas needed two plays (TDs called back due to penalties) to win that game. You can't have it both ways. No one said that Bama "won the game". Interceptions and penalties do count. That's my point. It was a handful of plays that determine the seasons.

UW had a game winning FG against Washington State.

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DisplacedBuckeye


Wants to use the "undefeated" case but then says of course Florida State is better than Liberty which is true but why is that? You can't just rely on "undefeated". You have to look at the teams holistically.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:05 am to
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Bama isn’t the enemy here, they are ranked 4th and that makes sense, it’s Texas.


You mean the same Texas that beat Bama at Bama by 10 points?
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