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re: Head referee for St. Paul's/ Mandeville game arrested in middle of game
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:12 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:12 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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In this case, the officer saw what he thought was a violation of the law and acted
Hurting the cop's feelings isn't a violation of the law
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:13 pm to bencoleman
The LHSAA guy said officer was acting on his own as a spectator. The people causing the issues were the officers guests. He was a fan but showed up in his uni to get on the sideline. Confusion came in when ref thought he was working the game. Cop wasn't being paid and it was his people causing the issue.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:16 pm to tiger94gop
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He was a fan but showed up in his uni
Ruh-roh. Here comes the lawsuit.
An off duty cop is disturbing the peace at a local football game, and in turn starts arresting people on trumped up charges.
Nice.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:27 pm to Rommel
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I don't know what was illegal, but if they feel disrespected they'll make something up because they have tiny dicks. That's for sure.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:28 pm to saintsfan22
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Hurting the cop's feelings isn't a violation of the law
True, I have had insults hurled at me many times.
Part of the job, if I wanted to be loved I would have been a fireman.
Intimidation of an officer can be as simple as saying, "I will have your job!" according to Ms Law. I don't know what La law says though.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:38 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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Intimidation of an officer can be as simple as saying, "I will have your job!" according to Ms Law. I don't know what La law says though.
So telling a cop you want to become a cop is intimidating to you guys? I'd grow thicker skin.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:49 pm to JG77056
There is a lot of hate here for cops. I am siding with the refs in this case but with a Brother, Father, Uncle and Grandfather as Portland Police, I don't envy their job. However, I doubt any of them would've pulled the stunt that the officer did in this scenario. I chalk it up to a bad apple.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:53 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
Mr. Gulf coast tiger when you are on a security detail you are being paid by the entity that you are providing security for. Please tell me that you understand that because if you don't further conversation on this subject is pointless
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:57 pm to bisonduck
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There is a lot of hate here for cops
I normally am the guy backing the cops. I'm always defending them on the OT, but in this case, the cop is 100% wrong. Basically, he had to show that ref who was boss.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:59 pm to KosmoCramer
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Are you not able to take direction from anyone because you're an LEO? It sounds like it.
That's pretty much the thought process of the majority of LEO's these days.
They don't work for us.
They rule us.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:05 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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Cooper said the police investigation is being led by Capt. Jack West, who was on the sideline next to Short when the arrests were made and has been interim police chief.
I think your boy Short will be just fine.
The Blue Line is always THE most eager to protect their worst members.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:12 pm to bencoleman
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Mr. Gulf coast tiger when you are on a security detail you are being paid by the entity that you are providing security for. Please tell me that you understand that because if you don't further conversation on this subject is pointless
I understand that, but we don't work for the schools when we work the games. We work for the PD and are assigned to work with the schools. I don't know how St Paul's does it. Do you? Does anyone?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:15 pm to Choupique19
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Here comes the lawsuit.
An off duty cop is disturbing the peace at a local football game, and in turn starts arresting people on trumped up charges.
Google "Covington Police + excessive force"
Note the number of cops fired and lawsuits concerning use of excessive force and that the former Chief was fired earlier this year.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 7:15 pm to JG77056
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So telling a cop you want to become a cop is intimidating to you guys? I'd grow thicker skin.
Not in your context, but by law if you threaten a officer with losing his job while he is performing his duties then you are violating the law. He can charge you with that. The guys that usually get charged with this are guys that threatend DUI officers, usually guys with a little money and to much alcohol.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:09 pm to tigerskin
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Covington Mayor Cooper announced Thursday that charges have been dropped against two referees who were arrested during the St. Paul's vs. Mandeville football game last Friday.
The police said they had 25 witnesses and video that backed up the cop's version. They were all set to go to court.
....not.
Later, the Mayor said
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On behalf of the city of Covington, I offer my sincere apology to Mr. Radcliffe and Mr. Gambino ... for the manner in which this was handled," Cooper said.
"We all agree this could have easily been handled differently. It is my goal to put this matter behind us, gain credibility for the Covington Police Department under its new leadership and restore a positive image to our great city."
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 10/17/13 at 8:25 pm to arrakis
For the citizens of Covington I sure hope that they do improve.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:28 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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understand that, but we don't work for the schools when we work the games. We work for the PD and are assigned to work with the schools. I don't know how St Paul's does it. Do you? Does anyone?
In La.they work a detail and are paid directly by the school.
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:33 pm to tigerskin
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Covington police can get their gig back now
"Mayor Cooper also says the New Orleans Football Officials Association has withdrawn its request to drop Covington police for game security."
Bad move IMO unless they have been guaranteed Short will be terminated.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 9:49 pm to 62zip
I don't think any refs will be having problems with Covington police officers for a while.
Still, this article kind of implies that Short is going to be in some kind of trouble.
LINK
Still, this article kind of implies that Short is going to be in some kind of trouble.
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As to whether any disciplinary actions would be brought against Short or any other police officer involved, the chief said, "My concentration (Wednesday) was the incident at St. Paul's. It became apparent that things should've been handled differently, and my focus was on restoring the credibility of those two gentlemen (Radcliffe and Gambino). "I will now look at it from an administrative standpoint and take the necessary actions. I'd ask you to grant me patience while I do that; I've been on the job for like 12 hours. This will take me time. I'll have to navigate through the civil service aspect of everything, but at the end of the day, we'll do the right thing."
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