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Have we discussed ad nauseum the onside kick yet?

Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:42 am
If a couple of those bama players had tried instead of just giving up and being shell shocked, they are 35 yards away with 1 second left.

Now that wouldve been an epic choke job by clemson. Idk why you dont either (a) kick it out the back of the end zone if youve got a kicker with the leg, or (b) kick it out of bounds and put them 65 yards away.

Clemson got lucky as frick.

Unless someone comes in here and tells me that for some reason a second would tick off solely because the receiving team recovered the ball while a knee was on the ground.
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:43 am to
You can't recover a kick without time coming off of the clock
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:43 am to
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Unless someone comes in here and tells me that for some reason a second would tick off solely because the receiving team recovered the ball while a knee was on the ground.



well had bama recovered it there is no guarantee they recover it with a knee on the ground. i assume they figured it was a safe kick to prevent a return and at least one second would run off. really no issue with it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:43 am to
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Unless someone comes in here and tells me that for some reason a second would tick off solely because the receiving team recovered the ball while a knee was on the ground.

yes a second would have run off
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:44 am to
Yep.... it was the right call



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This sounds like something a soccer mom would put on Facebook... the OP should be embarrassed
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:44 am to
Well, it worked.

I just wondered if there is any rule about half the team getting out in front of the ball giving the kicker a free chance to fall on the ball. Nonetheless, props to a perfectly executed kick by the kicker with a perfect roll to 11 yards.

Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:45 am to
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yes a second would have run off



Thanks, thats what i was wondering. Interesting that it doesnt when it is the kicking team who recovers
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:45 am to
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This sounds like something a soccer mom would put on Facebook... the OP should be embarrassed




Its so common knowledge that time comes off the clock when the kicking team recovers but not when the receiving team recovers an onside kick. OK

I mean. i guess it makes sense since the kicking team cant advance the ball but its still pretty weird
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:46 am to
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Thanks, thats what i was wondering.


quote:

Clemson got lucky as frick.



So you didn't even know the rule but claimed Clemson 'got lucky as frick'?

Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:46 am to
It's because the kicking team can't move the ball forward on an onside recovery I believe
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:47 am to
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So you didn't even know the rule but claimed Clemson 'got lucky as frick'?


Thats why I asked for clarification and qualified my post dipshit
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:47 am to
No stupid, I meant you were popping off at the mouth without even knowing the rules... that what I have a problem with


If you don't know, ask questions
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:47 am to
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Its so common knowledge that time comes off the clock when the kicking team recovers but not when the receiving team recovers an onside kick. OK


I mean..the ball is immediately dead when the kicking team recovers it. You can't advance it.
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:48 am to
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If you don't know, ask questions


Do you see this thread? Do you see the OP? Get off my fricking back
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:49 am to
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You can't recover a kick without time coming off of the clock
they literally did last night on the play in question. Plus if the player is down when it's recovered no time comes off the clock. That's what they said last night anyway
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:49 am to





you are so mad

So so mad

So mad

Mad








Relax dude I'm just pulling your hamstrings
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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they are 35 yards away with 1 second left.


Down by 4. Who the hell is going to get the ball 35 yards down field for a TD?

Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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they literally did last night on the play in question


Not the kicking team, the receiving team.

The ball is immediately dead when the kicking team recovers a kick. Not the case for the receiving team.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:51 am to
Thank you VT
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:51 am to
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It's because the kicking team can't move the ball forward on an onside recovery I believe

It still doesn't seem to make sense.

In both situations, the ball is dead immediately upon being possessed, assuming the recovering team does so with a knee already on the ground.

But if that's the rule, then yea, great call by Clemson to take advantage of what I'd think is a strange rule.
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