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re: First time in NBA history there will be no white players participating in ASG
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:27 am to slackster
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:27 am to slackster
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When I read the OP, the first thing that came to mind was that obviously there were no deserving white players. I never once thought that white players should have equal representation or that there is something amiss since we're such a large percentage of the population yet no one made the roster. I believe that thought process points out how different cultures are conditioned to view race and discrimination. I'm not going to imply that all whites see it this way, nor would I ever say that all minorities are looking to play the race card, but it is intriguing nonetheless. If you learn to take away race as the first differentiating factor, you can often get to the heart of the problem - in this instance, white players weren't good enough. It is so lazy and frankly dangerous to point to race and stop there when dissecting merit based awards and recognition.
This is a whole lotta of right. You nailed it.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:34 am to okietiger
Klay Thompson will only give 50% effort in protest
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:35 am to okietiger
I would say I am boycotting the All Star weekend...except...I already dont watch it.(Havent since TMac and Vince were tearing it up way back when). The whole process has been a joke for soo long. The players dont even take the game seriously. The only time I remember something meaningful or entertaining happening was when Shaq took the ball upcourt like a PG and turned the ball over trying to cross someone up.
I only watch a few NBA regular season games a year...then binge the entire playoffs(unless its an obvious sweep matchup).
I only watch a few NBA regular season games a year...then binge the entire playoffs(unless its an obvious sweep matchup).
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:37 am to partywiththelombardi
Eh, I don't care.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:27 am to Alt26
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Alt26
Congratulations, you've officially written these dumbest post I've ever seen on this board.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:28 am to partywiththelombardi
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The players dont even take the game seriously.
I actually think this is one of the reasons that the NBA all-star game is the best one (I have heard the NHL all-star game is pretty great, and they are doing the 3 on 3 thing, but I don't watch hockey). Basketball is much more of a show than baseball and football. So, when the players are out there just to show off, it can be fun to watch.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 11:34 am to okietiger
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First time in NBA history there will be no white players participating in ASG
Triggered [ON] OFF
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:00 pm to slackster
quote:There's certain some truth to this statement.
When I read the OP, the first thing that came to mind was that obviously there were no deserving white players. I never once thought that white players should have equal representation or that there is something amiss since we're such a large percentage of the population yet no one made the roster. I believe that thought process points out how different cultures are conditioned to view race and discrimination. I'm not going to imply that all whites see it this way, nor would I ever say that all minorities are looking to play the race card, but it is intriguing nonetheless. If you learn to take away race as the first differentiating factor, you can often get to the heart of the problem - in this instance, white players weren't good enough. It is so lazy and frankly dangerous to point to race and stop there when dissecting merit based awards and recognition
I think a talking point on that is, generally speaking, is when white people use their own sensibilities and then seem to not having any understanding whatsoever as to why "other cultures" may process things differently.
There's fault on both sides, obviously.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 12:02 pm to okietiger
Obviously jada smith is boycotting right?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:01 pm to shel311
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think a talking point on that is, generally speaking, is when white people use their own sensibilities and then seem to not having any understanding whatsoever as to why "other cultures" may process things differently
Processing things differently is fine, but I'd like to think people could agree that race is such a lazy way to excuse why things are the way they are.
For example, there is a high correlation between race and education level completed. If you stopped right there you'd fail to see that there is an even higher correlation between socioeconomic status and education completed. Obviously education is a more complex issue than basketball or acting, but my point remains.
I'm not going to get into white privilege because I think alot of that stuff is ridiculous, but I can say I consider myself blessed to have been raised in such a way that I look inward for what went wrong rather than outward for someone to blame. That approach manifest itself even with something as trivial as the OP - my first inclination is that white players should have performed better, not that deserving white players were overlooked for black players.
That approach isn't exclusive to white people by any means, but outside of a few sarcastic comments, the lack of any outrage over this provides some anecdotal evidence that most people see this as a merit issue, not a race issue. I'd like to think that could become a more universal approach to things like this.
tl;Dr - Downvoting myself for being this serious on the MSB.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:05 pm to slackster
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the lack of any outrage over this provides some anecdotal evidence that most people see this as a merit issue, not a race issue. I'd like to think that could become a more universal approach to things like this.
exactly. because it is a merit issue, not a race issue. just like the fact that there aren't enough black quarterbacks or whatever (pick any of these types of debates) was a merit issue and not a race issue. the problem comes when idiots don't see it that way.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:25 pm to slackster
quote:Again though, while there are certainly times it is an excuse, sometimes it is an actual explanation. My issue is with both sides. One side uses it as an excuse, and the other side will always say they're using it as an excuse even when it may be obviously so. Both of those sides suck, pretty simply put.
Processing things differently is fine, but I'd like to think people could agree that race is such a lazy way to excuse why things are the way they are.
quote:But would you do the same if you've experienced a shite ton of negative exmaples throughout your life solely because of your race?
, but I can say I consider myself blessed to have been raised in such a way that I look inward for what went wrong rather than outward for someone to blame. That approach manifest itself even with something as trivial as the OP - my first inclination is that white players should have performed better, not that deserving white players were overlooked for black players
quote:I certainly agree obviously. I agree with your overall premise, I'm just saying the lack of understanding as to why it's not nearly as easy for the minority cultures to see things this way 100% of the time is just being naive(not saying you specifically have done that)
. I'd like to think that could become a more universal approach to things like this.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 1:26 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:And also when other things pop up in society that are racial issues and the other side ignores and it says it's not, right?
the problem comes when idiots don't see it that way.
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