re: Finally...YOUR top 10

#1 Florida State (13-0)
#2 Auburn (12-1)
#3 Michigan State (12-1)
#4 Stanford (11-2)
#5 South Carolina (10-2)
#6 Alabama (11-1)
#7 Ohio State (12-1)
#8 Baylor (11-1)
#9 Oklahoma (10-2)
#10 Oklahoma State (10-2)

Rationale:
1) Take each team with 10+ wins from a Big 5 conference.
2) Remove all wins against opponents with eight or fewer wins.
3) Calculate and record new records and opponents' records.
4) Sort teams according to record, then opponents' records. If there is still a tie, make a subjective call as to who should go where.

1. FSU
2. Bama
3. Auburn
4. Michigan st
5. Stanford
6. Baylor
7. Ohio st
8. Missouri
9. South Carolina
10. Oklahoma

Be honest SC shouldn't have beaten Mizzou and neither hate or like the teams. They did but if they played again it would be much different

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Stop trolling, dumbass. Your team went 1-1 against quality teams this year. Stanford went 4-2 and South Carolina went 3-2. Unless in Gumpland 0.500 > 0.666 and 0.500 > 0.600, your team's where it needs to be.

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Okay man

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So you don't actually have anything to refute my position?

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No if you seriously believe Alabama only beat 1 quality opponent all year then there is just no sense in arguing with you.

Based on the criteria I used, they did. Quality opponent = 9+ wins from an AQ conference. If you think that criterion sucks, pick a better one.

Fact - Vegas still has bama as a favorite vs all teams but fsu

How would playing in a shitty conference benefit them more? That gives them fewer games to play that actually count. I wouldn't rank a team with zero quality games over a team with a quality win, even if that team were undefeated. (So if, for instance, Wisconsin had gone 6-6 this year, MSU had been ineligible for the postseason, and Ohio State had beaten Iowa, I would have ranked 13-0 Ohio State below 11-1 Alabama.)

As for 9 over 8, if the criterion were set at 8, then I'd have to include stuff like beating Minnesota, Iowa, Vanderbilt, and Houston as "quality wins." This did leave off Virginia Tech and Texas A&M, which hurt Alabama, but I'm more comfortable leaving them off than adding Iowa and Minnesota and Houston.

And if I decide that VT and TAMU are quality wins, but Minnesota and Iowa aren't, then I'm obviously using some criterion that isn't just record/wins. IMO there isn't a problem with that distinction, but if I can't spell it out objectively and apply whatever the logic behind that distinction is to every team, I don't think I can fairly include it.

Vegas power ranking polls are much more realistic then the junk in the other polls

Based on the "eye test" I'll say

1. FSU
2. Alabama
3. Stanford
4. Auburn
5. Baylor
6. Michigan St.
7. Oklahoma St.
8. Ohio St.
9. South Carolina
10. Missouri