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EILI5: Why are the Browns looking to dump Baker Mayfield?

Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94670 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:36 pm
Reports out today that the Browns will meet with Deshaun Watson. Fine, makes sense. He's a better QB and under contract longer than Mayfield.

In recent weeks, reports are out that the Browns front office has made clear to Mayfield they won't be offering an extension. Meanwhile today, word is that Mayfield could be traded even if the Browns don't land Watson and Baker is in his feels on twitter

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The Browns still could trade Mayfield even if they don’t get Watson, according to Cabot.

“The visit with Watson seems like a dealbreaker, and Mayfield and the Browns could be headed for a divorce regardless if Watson lands here or not,” Cabot writes








This is a franchise that spent 20 years looking for a QB to get them out of complete irrelevance. Seems weird they're actively souring their relationship with an adequate QB.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13558 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:38 pm to
Browns gonna brown.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6470 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:38 pm to
His letter is great.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21164 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:39 pm to
Maybe because he's average and always hurt?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94670 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:41 pm to
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Maybe because he's average


Sooo...better than every Browns QB/first round pick QB for the last 20+ years?

Who tf is this franchise to get uppity about having an average QB?
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7271 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:42 pm to
An adequate QB getting max money will never win a Super Bowl.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51702 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:42 pm to
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Sooo...better than every Browns QB/first round pick QB for the last 20+ years?


+1
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:42 pm to
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always hurt


Lol he’s missed 3 games in his entire career.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65498 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:44 pm to
Baker sucks

I would be very intrigued by a Watson-Mayfield trade

Myles Garrett May be the best player not named Aaron Donald in all of football. Tough division and the ravens won’t have 5000 injuries this year
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52868 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:44 pm to
If the Browns can’t win it with God overseeing the roster, they’ll never win it.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17945 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:45 pm to
because hes dogshit thats why
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5093 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:49 pm to
I respect both sides of this. Baker isn't the guy that's going to get a mediocre team over the hump. He's a decent quarterback, but not a franchise changer. This is a smart move by the Browns.

Baker realizes this and will definitely go on and find another starting job, maybe at a more complete team. He gets to leave the team on good terms, not being hated by the fans for dragging them down.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:50 pm to
Cabot is an instigator "reporter" that tries to create drama.

She isn't helping the team.

Doing her "job" maybe, but doing no favors to the Browns.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:52 pm to
Baker Mayfield is arse and they didn't have the balls to tell him to sit this year

They could have limped into the playoffs with Keenum

Missed it with Baker
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21164 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:53 pm to
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Lol he’s missed 3 games in his entire career.


No who's blindly looking at stats.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:08 pm to
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No who's blindly looking at stats.



List all of the injuries that have kept him out of games in his career. He’s missed less games in 4 years than Burrow has in 2. Is Burrow injury prone?

Take your L and keep it moving.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:10 pm to
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An adequate QB getting max money will never win a Super Bowl.



There’s no such thing as “max money” in the NFL, but when elite guys are getting 40+ million, a guy like Baker is going to get $20-30 million. Hell Teddy Bridgewater is Chad Pennington and even he got $15 million a year.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2091 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Cabot is an instigator "reporter" that tries to create drama.


MKC and Grossi are complete hacks.
Posted by LlyodChristmas
The Abandoned Jazzland
Member since Jan 2013
2168 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Maybe because he's average


I can tell you for a fact, going to 2 browns games in the last 3 years that they will take average over risking letting him go and gambling on another QB.

Dude took a franchise that had 1 win the previous 2 seasons before he got there and won them a playoff game. Came a bad call away from the AFC title game. Has had 4 different HCs. He needs stability in the organization
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:34 pm to
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Dude took a franchise that had 1 win the previous 2 seasons before he got there


To be fair, they were tanking.

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Has had 4 different HCs. He needs stability in the organization


But you are spot on here. Their HC’s preferred style of play (heavy on run, play action deep or short passes) doesn’t really lend itself to a guy getting a lot of big passing games. And when you build your offensive line to go heavy on the run with pass protection taking the backseat, it’s harder for you to protect your qb in obvious passing situations when you’re behind.

Pretty sure Baker had the third or fourth highest Sack% in the league.
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