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Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:55 am to Kujo
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:59 am to Kujo
Proves that wrestling is the most democratic of all sports. Doesn't matter how tall, short, or even how many arms or legs you have, it is completely fair. Only you and the other guy out there, weighing the same, no teammates to bail you out.
That said, Every wrestler has something that gives him an advantage and disadvantage. Just so happens that this kids advantage is so uncommon that I imagine people don't know the strategy to exploiting his game.
There was a kid in Missouri like this back when I was in HS who I had the pleasure to compete against. Nicest kid in the world. Key to beating him was constant movement changing directions. Once you get on top, they can't really get out.
But, good for the kid, finding a great sport at which he can excel on a level playing field. There was a NCAA champ a few years ago who only had one leg. Anthony Robles, great story. Wrestling is full of great stories.
That said, Every wrestler has something that gives him an advantage and disadvantage. Just so happens that this kids advantage is so uncommon that I imagine people don't know the strategy to exploiting his game.
There was a kid in Missouri like this back when I was in HS who I had the pleasure to compete against. Nicest kid in the world. Key to beating him was constant movement changing directions. Once you get on top, they can't really get out.
But, good for the kid, finding a great sport at which he can excel on a level playing field. There was a NCAA champ a few years ago who only had one leg. Anthony Robles, great story. Wrestling is full of great stories.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 12:49 pm to Dawgsontop34
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've said this before, and I know it probably makes me look like an arse, but I believe he has an unfair advantage by not having legs. It means his upper body can be much bigger and stronger than everyone else's.
I know how stupid that sounds, but it's just what I believe.
No stupid at all. That is how I feel exactly. He would be over 200 lbs with legs. It is very obvious those two do not have the same body type
Posted on 2/21/16 at 2:54 pm to Kujo
IF you want to say he has an advantage, I guess that's acceptable, but if you think it is unfair you're welcome to chop off both of your legs right past the knee and level the playing field.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 3:12 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Who also kicked arse. I'm leaning towards it being a huge advantage.
and after the match is over, they still have no legs...
Posted on 2/21/16 at 3:51 pm to chalmetteowl
If Shaq were "average" height and weight he would not have played college basketball.
I say enjoy the guys success.
I say enjoy the guys success.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:04 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Odds are that's probably not true. If I had to guess, I'd say he has an unfair advantage.
I would probably agree with this ultimately. Wrestlers with legs would not know how to wrestle him, and he has learned by doing how to wrestle others. Seems like an advantage.
Not taking away from his achievement though. Very good work.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:47 pm to kywildcatfanone
I just don't understand how you can say it's "unfair."
Saying it is unfair to the other kids with legs sounds a bit ridiculous, doesn't it?
Surely if it is such an unfair, yet acceptable handicap then we'll see wrestlers everywhere cutting off their legs at the knee.
As stated before, it has its pros and cons. The biggest advantage is probably the novelty of it - he presents a unique challenge to everyone he faces while they're basically the same to him. I still fail to see what is unfair about it when it is technically an option for everyone who wants to compete.
Saying it is unfair to the other kids with legs sounds a bit ridiculous, doesn't it?
Surely if it is such an unfair, yet acceptable handicap then we'll see wrestlers everywhere cutting off their legs at the knee.
As stated before, it has its pros and cons. The biggest advantage is probably the novelty of it - he presents a unique challenge to everyone he faces while they're basically the same to him. I still fail to see what is unfair about it when it is technically an option for everyone who wants to compete.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:You knocked him. You said he had an "unfair" advantage. Get the frick out. He may have an advantage, but saying it is unfair makes me want to e-slap you
ReauxlTide222
Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:57 pm to Dawgsontop34
ahh yes, the world of TigerDroppings where man with no legs has an unfair advantage in wresting. 
Posted on 2/21/16 at 5:50 pm to lsupride87
Unfair might not be the right word. I'm pretty sure I have said this already.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:08 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Wrestlers with legs would not know how to wrestle him, and he has learned by doing how to wrestle others.
This isn't true. Wrestling on your knees from the neutral position isn't an uncommon strategy. This is basically what he does.
The advantage comes from weight/strength. The area of the body he's missing probably accounts for 20-30 lbs.
That's said, it isn't an "unfair" advantage. Just an advantage.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:25 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's said, it isn't an "unfair" advantage. Just an advantage.
This.
Dude would still get wrecked in a real wrestling state like Iowa though.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:54 pm to TheSexecutioner
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His natural body is just good for the sport of wrestling IMO.
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Double amputee
i don't think natural body is a good argument here... also he wrestles legged people all the time. he is likely the only double amputee they will ever wrestle.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:50 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I've said this before, and I know it probably makes me look like an arse, but I believe he has an unfair advantage by not having legs. It means his upper body can be much bigger and stronger than everyone else's.
I know how stupid that sounds, but it's just what I believe.
This is completely it.
They have weight classes for a reason. Him not having legs is basically a way for him to compete in a lower weight class. He can be a huge dude with a much bigger, stronger upper body and would normally outweigh his opponents by like 50 lb, but because he has no legs he technically weighs the same.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:02 am to IAmReality
i think he's 6'4" with his legs on, competing in he 145 lb class
Posted on 2/22/16 at 12:20 am to CaptainBrannigan
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He would be over 200 lbs with legs. It is very obvious those two do not have the same body type
well heck.. some people are just naturally much stronger than others. should that be an unfair advantage as well?
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After 106, the weights are in order: 113, 120, 126, 132, 138, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220 and 285.
if he wrestles people in a higher weight class do they now have an unfair advantage because they have full use of legs? i don't agree it's unfair either way though. i don't know, i feel like there should be some sort of middle ground here.. so i was curious about the different weight classes and found this.
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The advantage comes from weight/strength. The area of the body he's missing probably accounts for 20-30 lbs.
That's said, it isn't an "unfair" advantage. Just an advantage.
When did he lose his legs, and I wonder exactly how much they weigh.
Any ways, there's a number of strategies in this sport to utilize your advantages and their disadvantages..
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 12:21 am
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:47 am to Dawgsontop34
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I've said this before, and I know it probably makes me look like an arse, but I believe he has an unfair advantage by not having legs. It means his upper body can be much bigger and stronger than everyone else's.
Its obvious you have never wrestled. There is only one measure of "fair" in wrestling, and that is how much you weigh. Each guy on the mat is at the same weight.
Every single advantage also comes as an inherent disadvantage.
If you are long and lanky, it makes it difficult to shoot on you from a distance, but it also leaves you vulnerable with more leverage points.
If you a short and stocky and powerful, you can stay compact and explode for a takedown...but you also might have a reach disadvantage.
This kid is obviously strong...but he also won't able to move quite as well, or get out as easily on bottom, being easily controlled.
Wrestling is easily the MOST fair of all sports.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:42 am to Dawgsontop34
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I've said this before, and I know it probably makes me look like an arse, but I believe he has an unfair advantage by not having legs. It means his upper body can be much bigger and stronger than everyone else's. I know how stupid that sounds, but it's just what I believe.
Maybe there is some advantage, maybe there is some disadvantage. But I don't even care. I think it what he is doing is incredible and inspirational. Most people in his situation or with a comparable handicap aren't even going to try what he did. Good for him.
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