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Does the Big East Deserve an AQ BCS Bowl Spot?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:38 pm
Okay, so me and my friend were talking about TCU and how they are going to the Big East which came to how strong the Big East is. He seems to think that without TCU,the Big East doesnt deserve a AQ spot in the BCS picture. My argument is that just because they have had an off year and average past couple of years, doesnt mean they shouldnt be considered for an AQ spot. But over the past like 7 years, there have been some dominant Big East schools and just because theres no ranked teams in the top 25 by them, doesnt mean they arent a big conference that deserves a bid. We know technically they cant lose their AQ spot but his argument is if they deserve it. Think about this...If it was the end of the '07 season, would you be thinking of dropping their bid? Do off years really result in not deserving that bid? You tell me.
So my question to everyone- Does the Big East deserve a bid even without TCU?
...Id also like to note that this is the same guy im arguing with about this...
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He also feels that if you have a small lead in the 4th quarter of a college football game, you should kick the onside kick anyways because "you have a chance to get the ball back" hahahhahaha. Just another note to think about.
So my question to everyone- Does the Big East deserve a bid even without TCU?
...Id also like to note that this is the same guy im arguing with about this...
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He also feels that if you have a small lead in the 4th quarter of a college football game, you should kick the onside kick anyways because "you have a chance to get the ball back" hahahhahaha. Just another note to think about.
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Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:43 pm to gamefaceheehaw
That is why they base the AQ conferences on a 4 year period (or 6 not sure). No conference (minus the SEC) can have a strong year, year in and year out. I believe that the Big East should keep their AQ spot and with TCU coming into the Big East, TCU will be in the BCS for a while to come.
Think about how dirty of a move that is for TCU. They can get the kids from Texas Cali and those Western states then go into the Big East area and get those kids too. I forsee TCU becoming the USC of the 90's (as in winning their conference without much competition.)
Think about how dirty of a move that is for TCU. They can get the kids from Texas Cali and those Western states then go into the Big East area and get those kids too. I forsee TCU becoming the USC of the 90's (as in winning their conference without much competition.)
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:46 pm to gamefaceheehaw
BCS AQ evalution data
The Big East only met 2 of the 3 criteria to be an AQ. They only got it because no one behind them was even close.
The Big East only met 2 of the 3 criteria to be an AQ. They only got it because no one behind them was even close.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:47 pm to TxTyger13
txtyger is the guy btw. hes the guy that made this whole argument happen in the first place
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:53 pm to gamefaceheehaw
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Does the Big East Deserve an AQ BCS Bowl Spot?
No, and not just because they suck. Its an 8 team league...that alone should D'Q them from AQ status.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 11:58 pm to vegas-tiger
Hell no.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 12:07 am to Tiger HouTX
no conference needs an AQ. the conferences that are well respected will always have a legit champion that would grab a top 10 spot even on a down year. politics and money......otherwise there is no point. the SEC champ will always play in an important game. the same is true for all big conferences.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 12:18 am to gamefaceheehaw
They get an AQ imo.
The Big East has a pretty big perception of weak conference. And of course, they are going to take more heat the year when the conference is down (significantly down).
However, based on their recent history, they fare pretty well. Most of the computer polls which compile part of the BCS also do conference rankings also. If you look at the past few years, you'll see that in most of the polls, Big East tends to fall in the middle of the BCS Six (3-5 usually).
I definitely don't think a conference outside of the BCS six deserves an AQ. If I had to reduce the number of AQs given out, then possibly I would consider yanking the Big East first (or the ACC).
The Big East has a pretty big perception of weak conference. And of course, they are going to take more heat the year when the conference is down (significantly down).
However, based on their recent history, they fare pretty well. Most of the computer polls which compile part of the BCS also do conference rankings also. If you look at the past few years, you'll see that in most of the polls, Big East tends to fall in the middle of the BCS Six (3-5 usually).
I definitely don't think a conference outside of the BCS six deserves an AQ. If I had to reduce the number of AQs given out, then possibly I would consider yanking the Big East first (or the ACC).
Posted on 11/30/10 at 12:25 am to Puffoluffagus
Look at the number of top 25 and 15 finishes of all the 6 big conferences..the big east has the least amount
Since 04 I mean
Since 04 I mean
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 12:26 am
Posted on 11/30/10 at 12:26 am to gamefaceheehaw
Simply put, no!
Posted on 11/30/10 at 3:50 am to vegas-tiger
The big east is a POS. No but Hell No. We and those that should be are getting screwed.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 8:24 am to easy money
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no conference needs an AQ. the conferences that are well respected will always have a legit champion that would grab a top 10 spot even on a down year. politics and money......otherwise there is no point. the SEC champ will always play in an important game. the same is true for all big conferences.
Agree 100%.
That's why we get Orange Bowls with comically low ratings--there's a bad ACC champ against a bad Big East champ.
Give the slots to the best teams, whether they're SEC or Sun Belt.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:08 am to gamefaceheehaw
does the ACC 
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:09 am to TxTyger13
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Look at the number of top 25 and 15 finishes of all the 6 big conferences..the big east has the least amount
well when you only have 8 teams thats going to happen if on average 3 teams of the 8 finish ranked thats not bad
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:15 am to StraightCashHomey21
With 8 teams i just think its an unfair advantage..adding two more teams could change the whole thing
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:17 am to TxTyger13
the problem really is the catholic schools having so much power trying to keep it a basketball league there will eventually be a split
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:18 am to gamefaceheehaw
No one deservs an AQ BCS Bowl Spot.
They should just take the top 10 teams, regardless of conference, and divy it up that way.
They should just take the top 10 teams, regardless of conference, and divy it up that way.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:19 am to Bestbank Tiger
But what im saying is do we base on if a conference is good enough by one year or even the past few years? Or what we predict will happen? I think they are qualified for an AQ spot. Suddenly they will deserve it once they get TCU? im a huge tcu fan and i think theyre really good no doubt but is that really the team that will boost them to that height? This is also not biased towards lsu either, the question is just does having a bad year as a conference make them not good enough to have an aq spot? Theyve had teams like Louisville, Pitt, USF Rutgers and Cincy successful in past years. And teams like UCONN and West Va doing great this year. Saying theyre not good enough for an aq spot is like saying they belong in a conference like the WAC or MWC or worse. Wouldnt that just be great if instead of hearing all of this stuff about Boise and TCU, we hear it about Boise, TCU, Pitt, Louisville, Cincy, UCONN, USF and WEST VIRGINIA?! Cmon guys, be realistic here. What yall are saying is we should just take Ole Miss, Tennessee, UCLA, Cal, Michigan, Penn St, and Texas out and put em in one sucky conference because they had a bad year. The Big East CAN be dominant. So lets just take away their aq spot not becuas ethey werent this year? Thats rediculous
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:30 am to Sophandros
Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it. They get an AQ because they have enough juice to get one. Even though it's slipping.
Posted on 11/30/10 at 9:45 am to Baloo
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Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it. They get an AQ because they have enough juice to get one. Even though it's slipping.
I agree. They have the juice to get it every year and just because they have a bad year doesnt mean they dont deserve it. My friend keeps talking about ending bcs standing but and dont get me wrong the big east sucked, but if they were average like the past few years with 2 or 3 teams in the top 25 by the end, we wouldnt be talking about it. But one year will do it? Thats not fair, they deserve it some years, not all. And when that happens, you have to give it to em
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