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Do any of the perennial disappointments break into the CFP this year? (2015 CFB)
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:20 pm
Here is Phil Steele's Top 40 -
1. Ohio State
2. TCU
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Baylor
6. Georgia
7. Stanford
8. Florida State
9. Michigan State
10. LSU
11. Oregon
12. Notre Dame
13. Wisconsin
14. Auburn
15. UCLA
16. Virginia Tech
17. Clemson
18. Oklahoma
19. Penn State
20. Ole Miss
21. Miami (FL)
22. Arkansas
23. Boise State
24. Missouri
25. Tennessee
26. Nebraska
27. Utah
28. Oklahoma State
29. Arizona State
30. Georgia Tech
31. Marshall
32. Texas A&M
33. Texas
34. Arizona
35. Toledo
36. Minnesota
37. Louisville
38. San Diego State
39. Mississippi State
40. Cincinnati
Obviously this can be debated about a few spots here and there, and pre-season polls mean very little but this will be our jumping off point.
Highlighting the top 2 candidates:
USC: They have the 5th highest 4 year recruiting average in the country behind only Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State and LSU. That alone should suggest that it's time for them to do something meaningful on the field as all the other teams above them have been in a title game since 2011 (and each has won one since 2007). They haven't been relevant on the national stage since Pete Carroll jumped ship for the NFL in 2009, and even in the later years of his time there. They have one of, if not the most, accurate quarterbacks in the country returning along with all five offensive linemen returning. That is a recipe for major success. Coupled with the offensive weapons they have, that's formidable.
Georgia: What can you say about Georgia that hasn't already been said? Not much. They are 1b to Clemson's 1a in the let-down category. At least a team like Oklahoma has been to numerous BCS bowls(9), UGA only has 3 major bowl appearances in the past 17 years and it's not from a lack of talent. In the last 10 years, UGA has put 56 players into the NFL Draft, good for 4th overall. They have an all-world running back in Nick Chubb coming back along with 4 offensive line starters.
Who (if any) of these perennial former powers and/or underachievers can actually make a run this year?
1. Ohio State
2. TCU
3. USC
4. Alabama
5. Baylor
6. Georgia
7. Stanford
8. Florida State
9. Michigan State
10. LSU
11. Oregon
12. Notre Dame
13. Wisconsin
14. Auburn
15. UCLA
16. Virginia Tech
17. Clemson
18. Oklahoma
19. Penn State
20. Ole Miss
21. Miami (FL)
22. Arkansas
23. Boise State
24. Missouri
25. Tennessee
26. Nebraska
27. Utah
28. Oklahoma State
29. Arizona State
30. Georgia Tech
31. Marshall
32. Texas A&M
33. Texas
34. Arizona
35. Toledo
36. Minnesota
37. Louisville
38. San Diego State
39. Mississippi State
40. Cincinnati
Obviously this can be debated about a few spots here and there, and pre-season polls mean very little but this will be our jumping off point.
Highlighting the top 2 candidates:
USC: They have the 5th highest 4 year recruiting average in the country behind only Alabama, Ohio State, Florida State and LSU. That alone should suggest that it's time for them to do something meaningful on the field as all the other teams above them have been in a title game since 2011 (and each has won one since 2007). They haven't been relevant on the national stage since Pete Carroll jumped ship for the NFL in 2009, and even in the later years of his time there. They have one of, if not the most, accurate quarterbacks in the country returning along with all five offensive linemen returning. That is a recipe for major success. Coupled with the offensive weapons they have, that's formidable.
Georgia: What can you say about Georgia that hasn't already been said? Not much. They are 1b to Clemson's 1a in the let-down category. At least a team like Oklahoma has been to numerous BCS bowls(9), UGA only has 3 major bowl appearances in the past 17 years and it's not from a lack of talent. In the last 10 years, UGA has put 56 players into the NFL Draft, good for 4th overall. They have an all-world running back in Nick Chubb coming back along with 4 offensive line starters.
Who (if any) of these perennial former powers and/or underachievers can actually make a run this year?
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:26 pm to KosmoCramer
If Watson stays healthy i see no reason Clemson wins less than 10 games, so I think they could be there towards the end
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:30 pm to Buckeye06
quote:
If Watson stays healthy i see no reason Clemson wins less than 10 games, so I think they could be there towards the end
I would tend to agree with that. But, that is a big "IF."
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:47 pm to KosmoCramer
Since when has USC been a "perennial disappointment" ?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:49 pm to JBeam
2006
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:54 pm to KosmoCramer
UCLA is either starting a Neuheisel or a true freshman at QB, so no they won't break through.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:55 pm to JG77056
Hmm I'd say a team that has a coach in his 2nd year and just removed from probation. Should not be looked at as a disappointment. But whatever.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:58 pm to JBeam
I'd consider USC a perennial disappointment.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:58 pm to JBeam
quote:
Hmm I'd say a team that has a coach in his 2nd year and just removed from probation. Should not be looked at as a disappointment. But whatever.
Yeah, but Sarkisian is a terrible coach. He will find a way to frick it up.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 5:59 pm to JBeam
With a healthy Watson Clemson is there.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:06 pm to Mr Personality
The biggest problem with USC will be depth on the defensive side of the ball. Also, the PAC12 could be choppy this season. Who knows how good Oregon will be. Will Arizona & Arizona St be able to continue what they started last season. UCLA has all the piece except at the QB position and Cal has to improve somehow.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:10 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:
With a healthy Watson Clemson is there.
quote:
FootballNostradamus
What is their D looking like this year. I assume young but talented? Like they lost almost all their starters right?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:10 pm to JBeam
The Pac 12 isn't getting into the playoff this year.
Oregon is taking a step back
Sarkisian and Mora are idiots
Arizona and Arizona State aren't at that level.
Cal? Lol. Dykes is as good as fired.
Oregon is taking a step back
Sarkisian and Mora are idiots
Arizona and Arizona State aren't at that level.
Cal? Lol. Dykes is as good as fired.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:22 pm to Mr Personality
Their QB (Goff?) Did really well last year and they had a middle school defense. I think they'll be much better.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:26 pm to cascadia
Meh. Goff is OK, nothing special. They still have never beaten anyone good under Dykes. Plus, their defense is a joke like you said.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:33 pm to Mr Personality
If Goff can improve more and they get a high school defense they could reach the UCLA level.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 6:34 pm to cascadia
Can Oregon borrow that high school defense?
Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:21 pm to Mr Personality
quote:
The B1G isn't getting into the playoff this year.
signed message board experts at this time a year ago.
ETA: or around Halloween for that matter
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:32 pm to KosmoCramer
Seven Win Sark won't do anything with USC
I remember in the Holiday Bowl USC returned a kickoff for a TD and the returner did a front flip into the end zone and got flagged.
Any other coach would have ripped the player a new one, but Sark clapped and celebrated it. That is why his teams never win more than 7 games.
I remember in the Holiday Bowl USC returned a kickoff for a TD and the returner did a front flip into the end zone and got flagged.
Any other coach would have ripped the player a new one, but Sark clapped and celebrated it. That is why his teams never win more than 7 games.
Posted on 6/15/15 at 7:51 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Carroll jumped ship for the NFL in 2009, and even in the later years of his time there
were you asleep during the 08 season? anyways, it's freaking ridiculous that he has SC ranked that high. We still have depth issues, particularly along the defensive line. Plus Cody Kessler is being highly overrated by the media.
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