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re: DAT: Offseason Thread (Spring Training has begun!!)

Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Sad day when Astro fans do backflips over signing a 40yr old.


To top it off, it was all Hinchs idea
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23577 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:29 pm to
What? No way!
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52791 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:32 pm to
Bitch should've resigned in 2005.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:32 pm to
Obviously its fine to temper beltran expectations, but we didn't overpay him or anything, colby rasmus money basically just went to carlos. That is a steal in itself. Rasmus was trash, marisnick was trash, tyler white was trash, aj reed was trash, castro was trash, preston tucker was trash

we just literally got rid of all that in our everyday lineup and added

brian mccann
carlos beltran
the cuban babe ruth

Id say the improvement is significant.

As for Beltran and his decline, he's not a power hitter and his sweet swing isn't in decline, as I mentioned he just hit .300 and drove in almost 100 runs at 39. He's averaged 24 homers a year the last 5 years over the age of 35. Albert Pujols once the most dominant htiter in the game just hit 31 homers last year at 36, beltran hit 29. So its safe to say beltran is fine

Rasmus hit .206 last year

Marisnick hit .209 last year

Beltran hit .295 last year

whats there not to be jumping up and down about again?
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:35 pm to
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whats there not to be jumping up and down about again?

Dave Hudgens is still the batting coach
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103070 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:36 pm to
2 wrongs making a right eh?
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:38 pm to
The batting coach you believe has that much of an effect on professional hitters? You really believe that? The greatest hitter of all time Barry bonds did nothing for the Marlins last year. We finally have a talented lineup 1-9 and you're complaining about the batting coach? Lol good god
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60153 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:41 pm to
I'm hearing Encarnacion didn't want to play for Hudgens. Wants no part of Hunch ball
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23577 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:44 pm to
Miami was 4th in batting average last year. Keep spinning it Van Jones.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103070 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:46 pm to
Truth hurts.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
21545 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Sources add: #Astros, #Rangers out on Sale at current asks. #Dodgers more focused on free agents than trades. #Braves still in mix.


-Rosenthal
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:47 pm to
And yet they didn't bring bonds back? Do you honestly believe there is that much coaching left to do when you have elite hitters like altuve,correa,Bergman?
Posted by LSShoe1030
Kenner
Member since Aug 2014
755 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:49 pm to
Texas gave up those prospects for him just to lose in the division series. The stros get him for nothing! Who's the one laughing now? I wish this season was starting now. I can't wait!
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94520 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:49 pm to
Beltran played with manager Hinch and bench coach Alex Cora.

Correa was 3 years old when Beltran made his debut. I'd imagine this is a big deal for Correa though. A Puerto Rican he probably grew up idolizing.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:49 pm to
Is this the Astros Ticket Exchange?

I need two tix to Astros vs Marineros on Apr 3.

Club tix preferably.


Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:59 pm to
The one the rangers gave up their first 1st round pick for?
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23577 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:30 pm to
Somethings only worth what one is willing to pay. I'm fine with then wiping out their farm. You wouldn't have taken that deal?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93718 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:30 pm to
@ Ryno and List melting.

You two are bigger bums than Carlos Gomez
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17995 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:37 pm to
I don't agree with Prom much but I do this time.

It's still early in this offseason and, at this point, there is no reason in the world not to be excited as all hell
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22323 posts
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:57 pm to
This was a leverage move, and one that you have to LOVE as an Astros fan.

I'm no Hinch fan by any means, but if this was a move he made, he deserves credit here.

I expect Beltran to DH and stay healthy. Don't want him covering anything but LF sparingly, and he would be an exception to the rule on running everything out. We don't need infield hits from him, just his bat in the lineup.

His presence does not exclude an EE deal, but keeps demands in check, and his added offense also frees up some options on the trade for starting pitching front.
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