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DAT 4/27: HOU (Fiers) @ CLE (Kluber): Astros lose 4-3

Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:21 am
Let's go baws

Fiers vs Kluber lol

This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:24 am to
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Fiers vs Kluber lol

Time to shock the world
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:25 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:29 am to
At least Sipp likely isn't available
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:30 am to
Feels like a 7-0 type game.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:33 am to
Peacock will give us 4 strong tonight

5-4 Stros IMO
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:35 am to
Moving the pitcher trade talk to today's thread.

No, Estrada is a rental.

Now, someone who is not a pure rental is Gerrit Cole. Two more years after this one. That's the type of ace baw you consider emptying part of the farm to get.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:36 am to
I've always like Cole. A megadeal for him and Watson would be pricey but could put us over the top. I like Santana as well, he had an under the radar really good year last year

The one guy I don't want to give up is Whitley
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:43 am to
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Estrada is a rental.

No problem with rentals for the right price.

Cole, Santana are both intriguing options. I still think Quintana is the gem of them all, but we'll have to see if he recovers from his slow start. I'm trying to not get too attached to prospects, but I mentioned in yesterday's DAT right before this one was started that trading more than 1 of Martes, Perez, and Whitley better get us a damn good pitcher with team control.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:45 am to
If we deal you better believe Perez or whitey would be involved with martes for an ace like cole.
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:48 am to
And that's fine, if we get an ace.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:48 am to
That's why I say let's get a rental ace or number 2. Don't give up the farm. Start the package around martes and Davis. I honestly don't think as highly of martes(as a starter) as Everyone else, and Davis is sol for playing for the astros anyway because of the massive road blocks ahead of him.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:50 am to
Looking at past rental ace deals I think those two would get it done with maybe one filler. People would freak out about losing martes over a rental, but like I mentioned I wouldn't because I think he is a poor mans lmj.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:50 am to
Estrada throws in the upper 80s. I want someone with better stuff as far as a playoff starter goes
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:51 am to
I'm with you on Martes. I really like Perez.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:51 am to
And btw the rental trade for a pitcher would need to happen now. It would be hard to trade both those guys for two months of a pitcher,but for 5 months then I'm interested.
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:51 am to
Not thrilled with the thought of giving up Martes for a rental. Doing that makes winning the World Series a must, a la the Cubs giving up Gleyber Torres for Chapman last year.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:52 am to
Same here. Only way I'm trading Perez or ted tuck is for an ace with team control.
Posted by iamAG
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:54 am to
Sometimes you have to gamble. I would be okay trading the farm for an established ace, but for me that would have to be a homerun type trade. Meaning I wouldn't be excited to do so for an archer or Q
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:55 am to
Another variable yet to be brought up is the draft. We can't trade players we draft this year, but we have 5 top 100 picks. It will be easier to stomach a trade once we get an influx of talent into the system mid-June.

Picks 15, 53, 56, 75 & 91 to be specific.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 9:56 am
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