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Dale Murphy, HOF?? Should be!!!!
Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:48 pm
IF they put Jim Rice in (he can thank Peter Gammons--the homer) they definitely need to put Dale Murphy in, very comparable numbers, plus the Hall needs a good guy to be put in for once.
This post was edited on 8/3/09 at 9:48 pm
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Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:50 pm to 3amigosanddad
:beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse: :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:52 pm to 3amigosanddad
after Andre Dawson gets in, then sure
Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:52 pm to 3amigosanddad
Yew sould lern how too spell.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 1:54 pm to BBATiger
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Yew sould lern how too spell.
the frick? Oh the thread title.
This post was edited on 8/2/09 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 8/2/09 at 2:04 pm to Lester Earl
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after Andre Dawson gets in, then sure
Murphy 1st, Then the Hawk!!!!!!
Posted on 8/2/09 at 2:35 pm to dukke v
Andre was better then Dale IMO. Both should be in though.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 2:43 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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Andre was better then Dale IMO.
No, he really wasn't. Not at their peaks. But it's close. And they should both have gotten in before Rice.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 2:45 pm to Hot Carl
Murphy is better than Jim Rice. I also think he's better than the Hawk. Then again, I think the Hawk is also better than Rice.
Tim Raines before any of them.
Tim Raines before any of them.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:25 pm to Baloo
If you have to debate it then doesnt that give you your answer.
No
No
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:31 pm to 4nmylifetime
Murphy - .265 career batting average.
Rice - .298 career batting average.
Is batting average a sole determination of HOF? No. But, the above is a good start at separating the two.
Rice - .298 career batting average.
Is batting average a sole determination of HOF? No. But, the above is a good start at separating the two.
This post was edited on 8/2/09 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:35 pm to Baloo
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Then again, I think the Hawk is also better than Rice.
Tim Raines before any of them.
bingo
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:38 pm to TigerintheNO
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after Andre Dawson gets in, then sure
How many MVP's did the Hawk win? If im not mistaken Dale Murphy won 2 (1982 and 1983)while playing for one of the worst teams in baseball at the time.
Dale Murphy should be IN the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame IMO.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:38 pm to MStreetTiger
Murphy's OBP: 346
Dawson's OBP: 323
Now, OBP isn't everything, but it is probably the most important stat for evaluating hitters (its a measure of not getting out). Murphy was better at the basic job of hitter than Dawson: not making outs.
It's a good place to start. I'm actually really stunned Murphy isn't in the Hall. When he was playing, I thought he was one of those guys constantly thought of as a Hall of Famer.
Dawson's OBP: 323
Now, OBP isn't everything, but it is probably the most important stat for evaluating hitters (its a measure of not getting out). Murphy was better at the basic job of hitter than Dawson: not making outs.
It's a good place to start. I'm actually really stunned Murphy isn't in the Hall. When he was playing, I thought he was one of those guys constantly thought of as a Hall of Famer.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:41 pm to Baloo
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Now, OBP isn't everything, but it is probably the most important stat for evaluating hitters (its a measure of not getting out).
Pffffft.
Its just a measure of how many bases you clog up.
Signed,
Dusty Baker
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:46 pm to Baloo
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When he was playing, I thought he was one of those guys constantly thought of as a Hall of Famer.
AGREED!!! And too bad NOWADAYS its all about ROIDS!!!! Did MURPH do roids??? NO!! So its a NO brainer!!!
Posted on 8/2/09 at 3:51 pm to 3amigosanddad
My first measure of a HOF is how he did in HIS ERA of playing ball.
It is clear that Murphy is one of the best of his era, the pre-steriod era. Back to back MVPs in 1982 and 1983. 7 time all star, 5 time gold glover, 4 time silver slugger.
Find me a better ball player from 1980 to 1987. They are few and far between.
It is clear that Murphy is one of the best of his era, the pre-steriod era. Back to back MVPs in 1982 and 1983. 7 time all star, 5 time gold glover, 4 time silver slugger.
Find me a better ball player from 1980 to 1987. They are few and far between.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 4:21 pm to msukb79
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If im not mistaken Dale Murphy won 2 (1982 and 1983)while playing for one of the worst teams in baseball at the time.
400 HR's and 300 SB
Barry Bonds
Willie Mays
Andre Dawson
and he won 1 MVP, finished 2nd twice, had 8 Gold Gloves, 8 time all star, and a ROY
Posted on 8/2/09 at 7:25 pm to Lester Earl
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AGREED!!! And too bad NOWADAYS its all about ROIDS!!!! Did MURPH do roids??? NO!! So its a NO brainer!!!
He sure as shite took greenies though. He didnt play in the steroid era so thats completely irrelevant. Players should be strictly compared to the era they play in. It's impossible and moronic to compare Barry Bonds to Babe Ruth or Ken Griffey Jr. to Willie Mays.
Posted on 8/2/09 at 7:40 pm to msukb79
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How many MVP's did the Hawk win? If im not mistaken Dale Murphy won 2 (1982 and 1983)while playing for one of the worst teams in baseball at the time.
true redneck, only da Braves exist. Dawson of course just rode the coattails of all those Expo and Cubs dynasties.
No telling how much more Dawson could've done if his knees didnt get ruined on that shitty turf in Montreal either.
still
BA
Dawson .279
Murphy .265
HR
Dawson 438
Murphy 398
SB
Dawson 314
Murphy 161
Gold Gloves
Dawson 8
Murphy 5
All-Stars
Dawson 8
Murphy 7
Murphy had 2 MVPs, Dawson had 1 and won Rookie of the Year
Both had 4 Silver Sluggers
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