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re: Could Lebron James be Finals MVP even if Cavs lose?

Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:30 am to
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Sure ... or, if Klay Thompson has 3 monster games.


But you have to figure that LBJs statline will continue to be pretty good.

If the warriors win, I really have a hard time believing that Curry won't be MVP, unless he plays like he did sunday in 2 more wins....

Even if Lebron has a triple double the remainder of the series, and they lose, I don't think he'd win the MVP regardless to how close the games are. I think whoever won the last series MVP as the loser, was the last one. No way that happens again. Not in this NBA.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 10:52 am to
One could argue that JR Smith is the MVP ... for Golden State.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 11:53 am to
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You will NEVER see a player from the losing team win the series MVP. NEVER.



I've seen it already. 1969. Maybe you meant never again? I agree with that.
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:04 pm to
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Maybe you meant never again? I agree with that.


If this series goes to game 7 with multiple OT games ending in a close score and LBJ puts up the numbers, I can see him being named MVP.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:08 pm to
No.

Curry had 26 points and 8 assists on 50% shooting in Game 1.

The series MVP is determined based off of how you play in games that your team wins, for the most part.

If Curry is good to great in all of Golden State's wins, he'll be MVP (assuming they win the series).
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:21 pm to
What if there is a different stand out player in each game?
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:24 pm to
That's pretty unlikely. And even if there were, if Curry was having good games while those other guys are having great games, it would still probably be him.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:29 pm to
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The series MVP is determined based off of how you play in games that your team wins, for the most part.

If Curry is good to great in all of Golden State's wins, he'll be MVP (assuming they win the series).



/thread

can we stop this nonsensical topic already? I mean for Christ's sake it was brought up by Mike and Mike. Is that alone not enough for everyone to realize this is a dumb topic.

I would almost bet my life. It spawned from a pre-show meeting where Mike Greenburg realized he hit his shitty joke quota about how Golic is fat or how the Jets suck. Then decides to fill that usual time slot with this nonsense.
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:29 pm to
I could be wrong, but Jerry West is the only player to ever been named NBA Finals MVP on the losing team, correct?

That being said, LeBron James, despite his FG%, has been the most valuable player this series. It is very difficult to dispute that.

The odds of winning a Finals MVP on a losing team is very low, obviously, so we'll see how the series plays out. I find it hard to believe that James is awarded Finals MVP if Cleveland goes down in five games.

If he can somehow will Cleveland to a Game 7 with the type of impact he's made in these first two games, it'll be awfully difficult to keep the award away from him, win or lose.

ETA: reality says he won't get it, though. Just threw in my own opinion.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 12:56 pm to
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If he can somehow will Cleveland to a Game 7 with the type of impact he's made in these first two games, it'll be awfully difficult to keep the award away from him, win or lose.



If the rest of the series plays out like the first two games and each game goes into OT or finishes by a close margin and LBJ continues to put up the stats like he has while different Warriors players have big games, I can see him getting MVP. It's a long shot, but I wouldn't be surprised. Dude is carrying that team on his back.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by FourthQuarter
Member since Sep 2014
2228 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Also has happened in football a couple times I believe

Only once. And it was the game where the final score was like 15-12 all field goals and there were like 7 turnovers
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:35 pm to
Simply speaking, no.

You have to win the series, or at least that's the way it should be.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Simply speaking, no.


You can't rule it completely out. Both games went into OT and the series is tied up. LBJ had two huge games with a weak roster. If the series goes to game 7 the way it has been, you can't rule it out.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:55 pm to
I guess he could win it. I'm just saying I think winning the championship should be a criterion for winning the FMVP award. Moreso, I don't think any Cavs player, fan or even Lebron himself would take consolation with a FMVP award in a losing series. Just give it to the best guy on the winning team. We all know Lebron is actually the most valuable player, but that's not how the award is given.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:58 pm to
But what if a different player on the Warriors have a big night. That roster is deep and I can see different players making a huge impact rather than just one single player.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86571 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Hell no, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. You don't win no way you should win MVP.


do you know what the letters in MVP stand for?

Out of the 20whatever players playing in the finals, who do you think is MORE valuable to their team than lebron?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:00 pm to
Well I guess the LeFanBois need something to hold onto this season....
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127489 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:09 pm to
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But what if a different player on the Warriors have a big night. That roster is deep and I can see different players making a huge impact rather than just one single player.

Just give it to Curry if he averages around 20-22 per game the rest of the way.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47870 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 2:56 pm to
yes i see the theory behind it... he might be the best player on the court.

that's typically how the regular season award is handed out, and is why the best team doesn't always produce the MVP.

the NBA finals have only two possible outcomes however; win or lose.

if cleveland loses, they could have replaced lebron with me and acheived the same result. he would have no value over replacement player.
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