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re: Colorado Football - What's the Problem

Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:03 am to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:03 am to
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They basically had 5 really bad years under Dan Hawkins, then 2 atrocious seasons under Jon Embree. Haven't had a winning season in 10 years.

I know facilities and university support were bad, but I also seem to recall those two having trouble retaining assistants because they were way underpaid for a major program. Do you know how true that was or if it is anymore?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I don't really remember them being relevant since Kordell Stewart was there.


They were ranked #2 in the country and trounced Nebraska and won the BigXII in 2001. Got shafted out of a National Championship berth. Miami probably would have crushed them anyway. Won the BigXII North in 2002, it was all downhill from there. Though they did win the BigXII North again in '04 and '05.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:05 am to
I like him. McElwain did well in a short time there. Interested to see if he sticks around or is just trying to springboard. New stadium opens in a couple years.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

know facilities and university support were bad, but I also seem to recall those two having trouble retaining assistants because they were way underpaid for a major program.

I do know that Jon Embree was only making $750k as a head coach of a major college program. Not unreasonable to assume that his assistants were not well paid.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:09 am to
Karma

All of the sexual assualt shite, 5th down, Fans throwing piss balloons, etc

They are getting a nice taste of karma.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:14 am to
Weed.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:14 am to
quote:

They were ranked #2 in the country and trounced Nebraska and won the BigXII in 2001. Got shafted out of a National Championship berth. Miami probably would have crushed them anyway. Won the BigXII North in 2002, it was all downhill from there. Though they did win the BigXII North again in '04 and '05.

Yeah, after I typed it I went back and looked at the yearly results. Didn't realize they participated in as many Big XII championship games as they have. Also, can't believe I forgot them blowing out Nebraska and then getting trounced by Texas a year or so later.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:16 am to
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Weed should be a good recruiting tool though
Except the NCAA mandates drug testing.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:21 am to
Yeah Texas mauldragged them like 70-7 or something like that.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:29 am to
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Got shafted out of a National Championship berth

Nah, they had 2 losses; Fresno State and a blowout to Texas.

Oregon had a better case and crushed CU in the Fiesta Bowl. The Pac-10 was perceived as down though.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:31 am to
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Yeah Texas mauldragged them like 70-7 or something like that.

70-3

It was 2005, they went in on a 2-game losing skid (30-16 @ Iowa St; 30-3 @ home vs Nebraska). They were 5-3 and winners of the Big XII North that year.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 11:35 am to
R.I.P. Big XII North. A force to be reckoned with.
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:09 pm to
Hawkins also insisted starting his son at QB (who was terrible).
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:12 pm to
Gosh he was awful
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13536 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:23 pm to
An ex of mine played volleyball for the Buffs, pretty much stated that the last couple of administrations have wanted to squash mens athletics completely after the 90's. Said their athletic department is completely tied by the admins and not a priority at all on campus anymore.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:24 pm to
Oh look its this yearly thread
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54099 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:25 pm to
Rashaan Salaam
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 12:42 pm to
CU doesn't give a shite about athletics.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 1:57 pm to
went to a game last year. renovations were being done. the stadium was half empty, and the fans were quiet. no joke - been to middle schools with better atmospheres. they sell sushi and tofu in the stands. only in boulder. good thing is you can sit pretty much anywhere in the stadium with the cheapest ticket.

cu's problem is that it turned its back from local talent and focused on recruiting cali thugs. 'cu' stands for 'california university,' and csu is known as the local state school. the best colorado talent either go out-of-state or to csu. cu recruits the cali rejects that the other pac 12 teams don't want.

also, colorado is all about the broncos. cu/csu are an afterthought. outside of boulder and fort collins, i have probably seen more texas, a&m, nebraska, and auburn(!) shirts than cu/csu combined.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:03 pm to
Where you at in Colorado?
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