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re: Charles Barkley Goes After Daryl Morey & Analytics

Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Can you seriously sit here and tell me you'd be shocked if the Rockets make the Finals? Not asking if they're your pick. But you wouldn't be like, "damn I didn't see that coming."


Yes I would be shocked
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Can you seriously sit here and tell me you'd be shocked if the Rockets make the Finals?


Yes, I can say that.

If they beat Golden State, Memphis, or San Antonio 4 games out of 7 in the playoffs, that would surprise me.

Edit - Houston beating Phoenix, OKC, LAC, Portland, or Dallas would not surprise me.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:04 pm to
You sure do get worked up about the Rockets.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:05 pm to
I can see about 8 teams in the West making the Finals.

Other than the Warriors right now, there really isn't any separation between the other teams in the West.

Any of those teams can get hot and come out of the West.

To say unequivocally that the team with the 3rd best record in the West with a legitimate MVP candidate is not a contender is flat-out dumbfounding.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:05 pm to
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You sure do get worked up about the Rockets.


So worked up. I really said some crazy things.
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4740 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:06 pm to
I really like the TNT show with Barkley and Shaq, when the Rockets aren't playing. Shaq hates Howard and Barkley hates the rockets so much that the entire show becomes the two of them bashing the rockets in every way possible. and like others have said, this isn't just your typical "_____ hates my team" crap, they legitimately hate the rockets.

Barkley is an idiot in this though. To be a successful GM you have to use both analytics and "the eye test".

By him saying that the spurs don't you analytics gives away that he does not have a clue what analytics even are.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:08 pm to
I didn't say crazy.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:09 pm to
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So worked up. I really said some crazy things.

You do hate pretty hard on the Rockets. I can say easily that they are one of your most disliked teams along with the Clippers.
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:11 pm to
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I didn't say crazy.


What did I say that shows I was "worked up"? This went from a thread about bashing Chuck's wrong opinion about analytics to a thread about bashing Chuck because we don't think he likes the Rockets.

I find it funny that it upsets y'all so much.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:12 pm to
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You do hate pretty hard on the Rockets. I can say easily that they are one of your most disliked teams along with the Clippers.


I mean they have two of the least likable players in the league and aren't all that fun to watch. This isn't a really out there opinion. It's not like I have any issues with any of y'all (except Boom )
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:12 pm to
He hates the fans. IDK which one touched him, but he's definitely a hater. Rockets fans discussing a Rockets related topic = butthurt.
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:13 pm to
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Yes I would be shocked


See this is just pure BS and trolling. They have two players who are elite at their position and a deep bench that fits the system. I'm not saying they have to be your pick, but to be shocked if they came out of the West is asenine IMO. But have a good day
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27230 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:13 pm to
Chuck has been trashing the Rockets on TNT since the Steven Francis days. Adding Dwight has made it ridiculous. Like it or not, TNT sways lots of people's opinions on basketball. I have seen that first hand on this board at times.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:14 pm to
Yeah, he doesn't need much provoking to let the butthurt flow.
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:15 pm to
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I can say easily that they are one of your most disliked teams along with the Clippers.


To be fair, is it really difficult to hate the Clippers?

I don't dislike the Rockets, but I dislike Dwight Howard. That is also not very difficult.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:16 pm to
I think he is a solid poster but he comes off as being pretty salty towards houston. Butthurt fans changing his opinion about analytics

he is like chuck to me, good dude and all until he starts talking about Houston.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:17 pm to
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Butthurt fans changing his opinion about analytics


Twas a simple joke...
Posted by Louisianimal83
Lithia Springs, GA
Member since Jan 2009
1606 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:25 pm to
Look at all these butthurt posters that couldn't get the girls in high school
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:30 pm to
I love how what is being missed here is that Barkley made a very adept statistics argument on accident. Barkley pointed out the Rockets don't perform well against top competition, often times indicating they won't perform well in the Playoffs.


So obviously teams need to do a better job of weighting performances against top teams when making decisions based on analytics. Thanks Chuck



If you don't do heavy analytics you are just dumb though. Analytics doesn't make a team, it just crafts teams to position themselves to be successful by helping them get into high percentage opportunities.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33004 posts
Posted on 2/11/15 at 2:31 pm to
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See this is just pure BS and trolling. They have two players who are elite at their position and a deep bench that fits the system. I'm not saying they have to be your pick, but to be shocked if they came out of the West is asenine IMO. But have a good day



You do realize that Dwight howard might not play again this season right?
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