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Can y'all explain bat drop to me; little league bat thread

Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:52 pm
Looking at youth bats, drops anywhere from -11 to -13.... what's that mean how do I know what's better for hitter?
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:53 pm
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:54 pm to
It's how many ounces less the bat is than the length. In high school bats must be -3 (or heavier I guess, but never seen it); Thus a 32 inch bat is going to weigh 29 ounces. In youth A -10 28 inch bat is going to weigh 18 ounces. Generally, for kids (young ones like coach pitch first/second year kids pitch) a lighter bat is going to result in more bat speed and be easier to control, which is a good thing. Later, kids will develop a preference and probably move to the 2 3/4 inch barrel (big barrel) which are going to be heavier, but I preferred them over the small barrel (2 1/4) inch bats.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:56 pm to
K gotcha, for my experiences I've noticed a kid needs that heavier bat in order to get some thump on the balls.
Posted by The Truth 34
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:57 pm to
i was dropping bombs at 10 years old with a -3, brah.
Posted by BigDawg0420
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:00 pm to
Still blows my mind that players used to be able to swing -5's in college
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

K gotcha, for my experiences I've noticed a kid needs that heavier bat in order to get some thump on the balls.


Two things determine the amount of force exacted on an object, mass and acceleration. In this case the object is the baseball and how much force is applied by the bat. Force=Mass*Acceleration. For this purpose when thinking bat speed think acceleration. So ideally, you should balance the mass (weight) of the bat with how hard the kid can swing it to give you the highest force. However, the heavier the bat, the less acceleration your going to have. Trick is finding the "just right" size.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:02 pm
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Still blows my mind that players used to be able to swing -5's in college


That's crazy. I never knew this, but I'm somewhat young. By the time I got to high school -3 was required by for everyone.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:03 pm to
I'm shooting for a 28" bat next. So really it's down to a -13 or a -12 drop. Or I could always just resort to cool factor appearance of bat as well for selection
Posted by gaetti15
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:03 pm to
Used a +3 softball (34 inch, 37 oz.) bat, 2 1/4 inch Easton Black magic when I was playing youth ball from 11-14 years old

Once I got to high school I had to go to drop 3 because my bat speed was too slow ha
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Speedy G
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:08 pm to
Drop doesn't always tell the full story. I believe the drop is measured before the endcap is placed. An 'end loaded' bat will swing heavier than a 'balanced weight' bat. My son has two 29" -13 bats, and one swings much heavier than the other. Most youth bats should feel balanced, though.

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Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:11 pm to
Many leagues have length/weight ratio restrictions on bats, so I'd look in to that before you buy.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:52 pm to
Serious question, little league play, I'm looking at 2 1/4 Easton mako beast, I've read numerous revoews saying it won't be little league approved in 2018, anyone know why? It's a 2 piece composite bat.
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:00 pm to
Does your kid actually play in a "little league" league. I'm in MS and there weren't a lot around when I was a kid. The best teams came from "Dizzy Dean" leagues.
Posted by Big L
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
Lawyers. Due to lawsuit an organization called USA baseball convinced a bunch of leagues including little league that youth bats needed to be more woodLike in performance. Starting fall of this year you will see a bunch of bats with USA Baseball printed on the taper, and they will be required to have arhat stamp in little league, babe Ruth, pony, Dixie, dizzy dean, and cal Ripken starting Jan 1 2018. The bats will be about 10-15% more "dead" than current bats, and it's going to be interesting to watch the fallout. They are allowing 2 5/8 which is new for some leagues that only allowed 2 1/4 previously, but bats are still gonna suck.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
Not sure,
It's at rec local parks, will have to find out what rules they follow I guess
Posted by TigernMS12
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:06 pm to
So basically BBCore for kids.
Posted by Big L
Houston
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:19 pm to
Yes and no. There are still allowed various drops with the smallest anticipated to be -5. The testing process is similar to BBCOR from what I understand in that the composite bats must break before they exceed the return velocity threshold on the cannon test, so it takes a lot of engineering to get that right. I'd bet that they will get better in year 2 and 3 after having more time to engineer the bats. One point of interest is that Marucci is refusing to make these bats on principle of disagreeing with the rationale behind it. I have a lot of respect for them in that regard because they are leaving a lot of money on the table by not making them.
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