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Can y'all explain bat drop to me; little league bat thread
Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:52 pm
Looking at youth bats, drops anywhere from -11 to -13.... what's that mean how do I know what's better for hitter?
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:54 pm to Chad504boy
It's how many ounces less the bat is than the length. In high school bats must be -3 (or heavier I guess, but never seen it); Thus a 32 inch bat is going to weigh 29 ounces. In youth A -10 28 inch bat is going to weigh 18 ounces. Generally, for kids (young ones like coach pitch first/second year kids pitch) a lighter bat is going to result in more bat speed and be easier to control, which is a good thing. Later, kids will develop a preference and probably move to the 2 3/4 inch barrel (big barrel) which are going to be heavier, but I preferred them over the small barrel (2 1/4) inch bats.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:56 pm to TigernMS12
K gotcha, for my experiences I've noticed a kid needs that heavier bat in order to get some thump on the balls.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 6:57 pm to Chad504boy
i was dropping bombs at 10 years old with a -3, brah.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:00 pm to TigernMS12
Still blows my mind that players used to be able to swing -5's in college
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:00 pm to Chad504boy
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K gotcha, for my experiences I've noticed a kid needs that heavier bat in order to get some thump on the balls.
Two things determine the amount of force exacted on an object, mass and acceleration. In this case the object is the baseball and how much force is applied by the bat. Force=Mass*Acceleration. For this purpose when thinking bat speed think acceleration. So ideally, you should balance the mass (weight) of the bat with how hard the kid can swing it to give you the highest force. However, the heavier the bat, the less acceleration your going to have. Trick is finding the "just right" size.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:01 pm to BigDawg0420
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Still blows my mind that players used to be able to swing -5's in college
That's crazy. I never knew this, but I'm somewhat young. By the time I got to high school -3 was required by for everyone.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:03 pm to TigernMS12
I'm shooting for a 28" bat next. So really it's down to a -13 or a -12 drop. Or I could always just resort to cool factor appearance of bat as well for selection
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:03 pm to BigDawg0420
Used a +3 softball (34 inch, 37 oz.) bat, 2 1/4 inch Easton Black magic when I was playing youth ball from 11-14 years old
Once I got to high school I had to go to drop 3 because my bat speed was too slow ha
Once I got to high school I had to go to drop 3 because my bat speed was too slow ha
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:08 pm to Chad504boy
Drop doesn't always tell the full story. I believe the drop is measured before the endcap is placed. An 'end loaded' bat will swing heavier than a 'balanced weight' bat. My son has two 29" -13 bats, and one swings much heavier than the other. Most youth bats should feel balanced, though.
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Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:11 pm to Chad504boy
Many leagues have length/weight ratio restrictions on bats, so I'd look in to that before you buy.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 7:52 pm to KosmoCramer
Serious question, little league play, I'm looking at 2 1/4 Easton mako beast, I've read numerous revoews saying it won't be little league approved in 2018, anyone know why? It's a 2 piece composite bat.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:00 pm to Chad504boy
Does your kid actually play in a "little league" league. I'm in MS and there weren't a lot around when I was a kid. The best teams came from "Dizzy Dean" leagues.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:03 pm to Chad504boy
Lawyers. Due to lawsuit an organization called USA baseball convinced a bunch of leagues including little league that youth bats needed to be more woodLike in performance. Starting fall of this year you will see a bunch of bats with USA Baseball printed on the taper, and they will be required to have arhat stamp in little league, babe Ruth, pony, Dixie, dizzy dean, and cal Ripken starting Jan 1 2018. The bats will be about 10-15% more "dead" than current bats, and it's going to be interesting to watch the fallout. They are allowing 2 5/8 which is new for some leagues that only allowed 2 1/4 previously, but bats are still gonna suck.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:03 pm to TigernMS12
Not sure,
It's at rec local parks, will have to find out what rules they follow I guess
It's at rec local parks, will have to find out what rules they follow I guess
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:06 pm to Big L
So basically BBCore for kids.
Posted on 5/21/17 at 8:19 pm to TigernMS12
Yes and no. There are still allowed various drops with the smallest anticipated to be -5. The testing process is similar to BBCOR from what I understand in that the composite bats must break before they exceed the return velocity threshold on the cannon test, so it takes a lot of engineering to get that right. I'd bet that they will get better in year 2 and 3 after having more time to engineer the bats. One point of interest is that Marucci is refusing to make these bats on principle of disagreeing with the rationale behind it. I have a lot of respect for them in that regard because they are leaving a lot of money on the table by not making them.
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